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term='faithfulness'/><category term='culture'/><category term='Hosea'/><category term='James Stewart'/><category term='revival'/><category term='servanthood'/><category term='Isaiah'/><category term='sovereignty of God'/><category term='imagination'/><category term='interpretation'/><category term='Augustine'/><category term='conflict'/><category term='ETS'/><category term='obedience'/><category term='friendship'/><category term='return of Christ'/><category term='wisdom'/><category term='plagiarism'/><category term='discipline'/><category term='Reformation'/><category term='history'/><category term='poetry'/><category term='public square'/><category term='apologetics'/><category term='Paul'/><category term='fear'/><category term='critique'/><category term='1 Timothy'/><category term='discouragement'/><category term='D A Carson'/><category term='commentaries'/><category term='fathers'/><title type='text'>Oversight of Souls</title><subtitle type='html'>Thoughts and conversation on pastoral ministry, asking what this ministry is and should be according to the Scriptures and thinking about how to live this out in practical ways</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default?start-index=101&amp;max-results=100'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>643</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-5717337902170814685</id><published>2010-05-04T11:04:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-05-04T11:04:00.133-05:00</updated><title type='text'>New Site</title><content type='html'>Thanks to the wonderful work of &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/briandenker"&gt;Brian Denker&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://rayvanneste.com/"&gt;a new site has been launched which is now the new home of the Oversight of Souls blog&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The new site has allowed me to bring together things I had in several places. In addition to hosting this blog it hosts links to &lt;a href="http://rayvanneste.com/?page_id=7"&gt;audio&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://rayvanneste.com/?page_id=10"&gt;articles&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://rayvanneste.com/?page_id=1182"&gt;syllabi&lt;/a&gt;, etc. I hope it will be useful. If you want to keep following this conversation, please update your book marks or feeds.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-5717337902170814685?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/5717337902170814685/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=5717337902170814685' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/5717337902170814685'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/5717337902170814685'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/05/new-site.html' title='New Site'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-2284299223533441338</id><published>2010-05-03T15:54:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-05-03T15:54:12.386-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='membership. testimony'/><title type='text'>The Value of Testimonies</title><content type='html'>At &lt;a href="http://www.cccjackson.org/"&gt;our church&lt;/a&gt; each person who wants to join the church shares their testimony with the church in our prayer meeting as part of the process. It is wonderful to hear about the work of God in another person’s life whether the account be long or simple. Yet, when I have commented on this here, many people have been nervous about the use of ‘testimonies.’ Such ‘sharing’ may have in certain places taken precedence over direct revelation, but that does not mean there is no place for believers to praise God by sharing how he has been at work in their lives. We have found this to be a very useful way for members to begin getting to know new members.&lt;br /&gt;My friend and fellow pastor, Eric Smith, has written &lt;a href="http://ericcsmith.wordpress.com/2010/05/03/honoring-christ-by-sharing-our-testimonies/"&gt;a useful explanation of the&amp;nbsp;value of such testimonies&lt;/a&gt; and I commend it to you.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-2284299223533441338?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/2284299223533441338/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=2284299223533441338' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2284299223533441338'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2284299223533441338'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/05/value-of-testimonies.html' title='The Value of Testimonies'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-7686697642852443955</id><published>2010-04-30T14:15:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-30T14:15:12.182-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='examples'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='defining ministry'/><title type='text'>Gill on the Pastorate</title><content type='html'>In John Gill’s exposition of &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=matt+13%3A52"&gt;Matt. 13:52&lt;/a&gt;, he gives a good description of the work of the pastor:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“…of which indeed Christ is properly the householder and master, but Gospel ministers are deputies and stewards under him, and under him preside over the household, and have the government of it, provide food for it, and protect and defend it; all which require large gifts and abilities, great love and affection, both to Christ and his people; much wisdom, prudence, and knowledge; and great faithfulness and integrity, courage and firmness of mind.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;(John Gill’s Exposition of the Old and New Testaments: Volume 7, Matthew to John, [1809]. Reprint. The Baptist Commentary Series, Volume 1. Paris, AR: Baptist Standard Bearer, 1989, p. 157).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-7686697642852443955?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/7686697642852443955/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=7686697642852443955' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/7686697642852443955'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/7686697642852443955'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/04/gill-on-pastorate.html' title='Gill on the Pastorate'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-3083484883671135908</id><published>2010-04-28T10:16:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-28T10:16:00.083-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='preaching'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='conferences'/><title type='text'>Communicating Familiar Truths Conference</title><content type='html'>Tomorrow Greg Thornbury &amp;amp; I will be speaking at the &lt;a href="http://www.uu.edu/hendersonville/events/BibleConference_Flyer_Sp10.pdf"&gt;“Communicating Familiar Bible Stories in Unfamiliar Ways”&lt;/a&gt; conference at FBC Goodletsville. The basic schedule is as follows:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;8:30- Registration &amp;amp; coffee&lt;br /&gt;Session 1- “Staying Alive to the Living Word”, Ray Van Neste&lt;br /&gt;Session 2- “The Bible is Strange When You are a Stranger”, Gregory Thornbury&lt;br /&gt;Lunch&lt;br /&gt;Session 3- “Hope Always Connects”, Ray Van Neste &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My wife, Tammie, will also be singing.&lt;br /&gt;The conference and lunch are free, though registration is required.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-3083484883671135908?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/3083484883671135908/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=3083484883671135908' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/3083484883671135908'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/3083484883671135908'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/04/communicating-familiar-truths.html' title='Communicating Familiar Truths Conference'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-529976330504446063</id><published>2010-04-27T15:19:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-27T15:19:17.222-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pastoral Epistles'/><title type='text'>The Church- Conduit of the Power of God</title><content type='html'>Hezekiah Harvey was a prominent Baptist preacher, teacher and author in the 19th century. His comments here on the importance of the church are strikingly relevant today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“The gospel becomes a permanent and aggressive power on earth only through the church, the divinely constituted organization, to which God has committed it, and through which it is appointed to act on men. The pietism which, in the professed interest of spiritual religion, undervalues the outward institutions of the gospel, finds no sanction in Scripture; on the contrary, the church, with its heaven-given ministry and ordinances, there stands in the foreground as God’s agency for the conservation of his truth and the conversion of the world.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;--H.H. Harvey, &lt;em&gt;Timothy to Peter&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Commentary-Timothy-Philemon-American-Testament/dp/999000188X?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;An American Commentary on the New Testament &lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=999000188X" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;(Philadelphia: American Baptist Publication Society, 1890), 129.&lt;br /&gt;Several of Harvey's books can be found &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?q=+inauthor:%22Hezekiah+Harvey%22&amp;amp;source=gbs_metadata_r&amp;amp;cad=3"&gt;online here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-529976330504446063?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/529976330504446063/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=529976330504446063' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/529976330504446063'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/529976330504446063'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/04/church-conduit-of-power-of-god.html' title='The Church- Conduit of the Power of God'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-2186812178377046738</id><published>2010-04-24T22:05:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-24T22:08:44.329-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='evangelism'/><title type='text'>Rescue the Perishing</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S9OwcfGZ1iI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/PCAX0tOqoPc/s1600/rescue.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="242" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S9OwcfGZ1iI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/PCAX0tOqoPc/s400/rescue.jpg" tt="true" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Rescue the perishing, care for the dying,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Snatch them in pity from sin and the grave&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;(Fanny Crosby)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;‘Christ had the good of souls in his eye. He came to seek and save that which was lost …Follow Christ in this, O my soul, that thou mayst be a fisher of men. When thou studiest thy sermons, let the good of souls be before thee; when thou preachest, let this be thy design, to endeavour to recover lost sheep, to get some brands plucked out of the burning; to get some converted, and brought in to thy Master. Let that be much in thy mind, and be concerned for that, whatever doctrine thou preachest.’ &lt;br /&gt;(Thomas Boston, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Art-Manfishing-Christian-heritage-imprint/dp/1857921062?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;The Art of Manfishing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1857921062" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;, 79-80).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;[photo by &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.petapixel.com/2010/04/12/photo-pulitzer-prize-winners-mary-chind-and-craig-f-walker/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;Mary Chind&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-2186812178377046738?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/2186812178377046738/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=2186812178377046738' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2186812178377046738'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2186812178377046738'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/04/rescue-perishing.html' title='Rescue the Perishing'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S9OwcfGZ1iI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/PCAX0tOqoPc/s72-c/rescue.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-5437459589582146263</id><published>2010-04-23T12:40:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T12:40:00.335-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Greek'/><title type='text'>Value of Studying Greek</title><content type='html'>From time to time here I comment on the value of Greek for ministry. Though many today seriously doubt the real, practical value of Greek study for day to day ministry, I want to encourage pastors to discover (remember, or maintain) this value.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is an astute comment from a current Greek student:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Enriching our studies, however, is only a part of the value that is wrapped up in learning the Biblical languages. For me, studying Greek has been an incredibly beneficial process because of the discipline it requires and cultivates. A.T. Robertson points out that learning the Biblical languages is an enriching process for the mind [&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Minister-His-Greek-New-Testament/dp/1599251965?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;referring to this book&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1599251965" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]. An hour of study a day is crucial. Not only it is required, but it is also a necessity for all of the understanding and memorization that is involved in the study. I can honestly say that learning Greek is the most difficult thing I have been involved in, but it is a good challenge. I am more disciplined than I ever have been before, and I firmly believe it is due in large part to Greek. It requires motivation, intentionality, patience and discipline. And not only does it require these things, but it cultivates them as well.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-5437459589582146263?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/5437459589582146263/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=5437459589582146263' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/5437459589582146263'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/5437459589582146263'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/04/value-of-studying-greek.html' title='Value of Studying Greek'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-288362390313981642</id><published>2010-04-22T14:45:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-22T14:59:17.166-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='faithfulness'/><title type='text'>Faithful not Flashy</title><content type='html'>Years ago, while in college I read a few entries from Oswald Chambers’ &lt;em&gt;My Utmost for His Highest&lt;/em&gt;. One entry really struck me and has stayed with me these last 20 years or so. In preparing to preach tonight for a &lt;a href="http://www.uu.edu/events/moreinfo.cfm?id=2947"&gt;student event&lt;/a&gt;, this came back to mind, and I was able to find it on the &lt;a href="http://www.myutmost.org/10/1021.html"&gt;internet&lt;/a&gt;. There is much humbling and empowering wisdom here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Discipleship is built entirely on the supernatural grace of God. Walking on the water is easy to impulsive pluck, but walking on dry land as a disciple of Jesus Christ is a different thing. Peter walked on the water to go to Jesus, but he followed Him afar off on the land. We do not need the grace of God to stand crises, human nature and pride are sufficient, we can face the strain magnificently; but it does require the supernatural grace of God to live twenty-four hours in every day as a saint, to go through drudgery as a disciple, to live an ordinary, unobserved, ignored existence as a disciple of Jesus. It is inbred in us that we have to do exceptional things for God; but we have not. We have to be exceptional in the ordinary things, to be holy in mean streets, among mean people, and this is not learned in five minutes. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-288362390313981642?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/288362390313981642/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=288362390313981642' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/288362390313981642'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/288362390313981642'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/04/faithful-not-flashy.html' title='Faithful not Flashy'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-2862463097064203480</id><published>2010-04-20T16:59:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-20T16:59:37.725-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pastoral care'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='examples'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='oversight'/><title type='text'>Philips Brooks on Knowing Your Congregation</title><content type='html'>“Philips Brooks presented three rules to students, introducing them with due solemnity:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;‘I beg you to remember them and apply them with all the wisdom that God gives you. First. Have as few congregations as you can. Second. Know your congregation as thoroughly as you can. Third. Know your congregation so largely and deeply that in knowing it you shall know humanity.’ ”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Geoff Thomas, “Find a Place to Settle,” 362, in Thomas Ascol, &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Dear-Timothy-Letters-Pastoral-Ministry/dp/0971336156?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Dear Timothy: Letters on Pastoral Ministry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0971336156" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;; Thomas is quoting from Philip Brooks, &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Lectures-Preaching-Delivered-Divinity-February/dp/1407657194?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Lectures on Preaching&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1407657194" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, 190)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-2862463097064203480?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/2862463097064203480/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=2862463097064203480' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2862463097064203480'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2862463097064203480'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/04/philips-brooks-on-knowing-your.html' title='Philips Brooks on Knowing Your Congregation'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-2077061745751939808</id><published>2010-04-19T06:34:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-19T06:34:00.245-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Exodus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='defining ministry'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='oversight'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='conferences'/><title type='text'>Midwest Founders Conference Messages Available</title><content type='html'>The messages I delivered at the Midwest Founders Conference in February are now available online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.uu.edu/audio/baptistfuture/100709-RayVanNeste.mp3"&gt;“Oversight of Souls: The Heart of Pastoral Ministry, Part 1”-&lt;/a&gt; link is actually to another setting where this address was given&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="file:///C:/rayvanneste2/Audio/Ray%20Van%20Neste-Shepherding%20a%20Rebellious%20People.mp3"&gt;“Oversight of Souls: The Heart of Pastoral Ministry, Part 2”&lt;/a&gt;- addressing some more practical issues on how to pursue this approach to ministry&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="file:///C:/rayvanneste2/Audio/Ray%20Van%20Neste-Oversight%20of%20Souls%202.mp3"&gt;“Shepherding a Rebellious People”-&lt;/a&gt; exposition of Exodus 32&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-2077061745751939808?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/2077061745751939808/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=2077061745751939808' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2077061745751939808'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2077061745751939808'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/04/midwest-founders-conference-messages.html' title='Midwest Founders Conference Messages Available'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-2424632376298493991</id><published>2010-04-15T12:15:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-15T12:15:28.593-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='doctrine'/><title type='text'>John Angell James on Keeping Watch</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S8dJZ8tBhkI/AAAAAAAAAmI/JDqlQ1YXYWc/s1600/Earnest-Ministry.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S8dJZ8tBhkI/AAAAAAAAAmI/JDqlQ1YXYWc/s200/Earnest-Ministry.jpg" width="130" wt="true" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;“The friends of evangelical doctrine, and the advocates of orthodoxy, have the following objects to keep ever in view in this age; they must take care of their Bibles, that they be not mutilated or curtailed by lawless criticism; they must take care of their theology, that it be not perverted by false philosophy; and they must take care of their pulpits, that they be not occupied by heretical, unspiritual, or incompetent ministers.” &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;- John Angell James, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Earnest-Ministry-Want-Times/dp/0851516572?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;An Earnest Ministry: The Want of the Times &lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0851516572" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;(xx)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;"Keep a close watch on yourself and on the teaching. Persist in this, for by so doing you will save both yourself and your hearers" - &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+tim+4"&gt;1 Timothy 4:16&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-2424632376298493991?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/2424632376298493991/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=2424632376298493991' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2424632376298493991'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2424632376298493991'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/04/john-angell-james-on-keeping-watch.html' title='John Angell James on Keeping Watch'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S8dJZ8tBhkI/AAAAAAAAAmI/JDqlQ1YXYWc/s72-c/Earnest-Ministry.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-3100554149654905222</id><published>2010-04-13T14:14:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-13T14:14:09.274-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='preaching'/><title type='text'>Itching Ears</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S8TCUduoxyI/AAAAAAAAAmA/k3i1IpKyuHo/s1600/Earnest-Ministry.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S8TCUduoxyI/AAAAAAAAAmA/k3i1IpKyuHo/s200/Earnest-Ministry.jpg" width="130" wt="true" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;This powerful warning from John Angell James in his valuable book, &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Earnest-Ministry-Want-Times/dp/0851516572?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;An Earnest Ministry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0851516572" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, still applies today:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;“The prevailing disposition, therefore, to do such homage to talent, rather than to moral excellence, is only another species of idolatry, more refined and subtle than the worship of stocks and stones, but scarcely less guilty… &lt;/div&gt;But when the Christian public is so enamoured of talent, as to admire it more than he message, which it is employed to set forth; when no preacher can be heard with pleasure or even endurance, however sound his doctrine, clear his statements, impressive his manner, or earnest his address, unless his discourse is radiant with the light of genius, and gay with the flowers of rhetoric; when truth itself is unpalatable unless it is sweetened with the honey of human eloquence, and even error so sweetened is swallowed for the sake of its luscious accompaniment; when the hearer of a sermon turns from it with disgust, because it fails to regale his fancy by the brilliancy of its images, or to lull his ear by the smoothness and harmony of its periods; when this is the state of the public taste, and it is to be feared that to a great extent it is the state of it now, surely it is time to call the attention of our congregations to something higher and better.” (250-251)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-3100554149654905222?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/3100554149654905222/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=3100554149654905222' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/3100554149654905222'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/3100554149654905222'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/04/itching-ears.html' title='Itching Ears'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S8TCUduoxyI/AAAAAAAAAmA/k3i1IpKyuHo/s72-c/Earnest-Ministry.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-4030467528885479702</id><published>2010-04-12T06:39:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-12T06:39:00.588-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tolkien'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='defining ministry'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='oversight'/><title type='text'>Tolkien’s Rangers as Pastors</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S7_0KZxQi-I/AAAAAAAAAl4/9gzQfVxzJIE/s1600/aragorn.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S7_0KZxQi-I/AAAAAAAAAl4/9gzQfVxzJIE/s200/aragorn.jpg" width="141" wt="true" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Reading &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Return-King-Being-Third-Rings/dp/0618574972?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Return of the King&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0618574972" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;(third volume of &lt;em&gt;The Lord of the Rings&lt;/em&gt;) to my boys a comment from Halbarad, a Ranger and kin of Aragorn, struck me as paralleling pastoral ministry. Speaking of the Shire, the peaceful land of the Hobbits, he said:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;“Little do they know of our long labour for the safekeeping of their borders, and yet I grudge it not” (971).&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;One of the words for pastors in the New Testament is &lt;em&gt;episkopos&lt;/em&gt;, typically translated as “overseer.” This word also has the connotation of “guardian.” This is part of what is in view in &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=heb+13%3A17&amp;amp;go=Go"&gt;Hebrews 13:17&lt;/a&gt; when pastors are described as those who keep watch over the souls of their people.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;If we do our task well, our people will often not know the labor that has gone into their safekeeping. But the true shepherd will not begrudge this. He will be satisfied to see his flock make it safely home to the celestial city.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-4030467528885479702?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/4030467528885479702/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=4030467528885479702' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4030467528885479702'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4030467528885479702'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/04/tolkiens-rangers-as-pastors.html' title='Tolkien’s Rangers as Pastors'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S7_0KZxQi-I/AAAAAAAAAl4/9gzQfVxzJIE/s72-c/aragorn.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-4534450929498615682</id><published>2010-04-10T06:30:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-10T06:30:00.360-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='psalms'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='family'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='children'/><title type='text'>Singing Psalm 127</title><content type='html'>Psalm singing continues to be a great joy in my family having a standard place at our evening meal. We began a little over a year ago with &lt;a href="http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/03/singing-psalm-128.html"&gt;Psalm 128&lt;/a&gt;, and have added a few more along the way. As we began 2010 we introduced Psalm 127 the other really strong family Psalm. The version of Psalm 127 found in the &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Trinity-Psalter/dp/1884527078?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Trinity Psalter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1884527078" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; was pretty rough and awkward, so I worked on editing it seeking to follow the biblical text and to achieve more clarity in expression. In the end I still wanted to do more, but decided it was time to start singing with what we had- lest the pursuit of perfection mean the actual practice of nothing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, here is my edited version. It is still not as smooth as the version of Psalm 128, but it has been useful to us and we all now know it by heart after singing it a few months. It is in the Common Meter so we have sung it to the tune of “Amazing Grace.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Psalm 127&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1Except the LORD shall build the house&lt;br /&gt;The builders work in vain;&lt;br /&gt;Except the Lord the city keep&lt;br /&gt;The watchmen watch in vain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2‘Tis vain for you to rise ear-ly,&lt;br /&gt;Or late from rest to keep,&lt;br /&gt;To eat the bread of anxious toil;&lt;br /&gt;He gives His loved ones sleep.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3Lo, children are the LORD’s good gift;&lt;br /&gt;Rich payment are men’s sons.&lt;br /&gt;4The sons of youth as arrows are&lt;br /&gt;In hands of mighty ones.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5Who has his quiver filled with these&lt;br /&gt;O happy shall he be;&lt;br /&gt;When foes they greet within the gate&lt;br /&gt;They shall from shame be free.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe singing verses 4 and&amp;nbsp;5 have particularly hit home to my sons. They are reminded of the future God envisions for them. What an encouragement for my children, also, to sing regularly together a scriptural reminder that they are blessings from God. It has been helpful to me, also, to have verse 2 running through my head from time to time, reminding me not to fall for the frenetic lifestyle but to rest in God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps some of you will be able to work on this rendering even further.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-4534450929498615682?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/4534450929498615682/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=4534450929498615682' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4534450929498615682'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4534450929498615682'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/04/singing-psalm-127.html' title='Singing Psalm 127'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-352861778648399121</id><published>2010-04-09T05:22:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-09T05:22:00.350-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='preaching'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Chrysostom'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='examples'/><title type='text'>Chrysostom as a Preacher</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S7z4IKMJV4I/AAAAAAAAAlw/f7MNV835odg/s1600/john_chrysostom1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" nt="true" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S7z4IKMJV4I/AAAAAAAAAlw/f7MNV835odg/s200/john_chrysostom1.jpg" width="145" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“[John Chrysostom’s] excellence we appreciate today from an exegetical point of view, from an ethical point of view, and from a literary point of view.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The preaching of this master centers in his series of exegetical sermons on individual books of the Bible. . . . . his great authority as a preacher rested in his faithfulness to Scripture. When he preached, there was never any question but that it was the Word of God which he preached.” &lt;br /&gt;(Hughes Oliphant Old, &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Worship-Revised-Expanded-Hughes-Oliphant/dp/0664225799?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Worship Reformed According to Scripture&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0664225799" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, p. 65)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-352861778648399121?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/352861778648399121/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=352861778648399121' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/352861778648399121'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/352861778648399121'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/04/chrysostom-as-preacher.html' title='Chrysostom as a Preacher'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S7z4IKMJV4I/AAAAAAAAAlw/f7MNV835odg/s72-c/john_chrysostom1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-3111768532070022233</id><published>2010-04-08T05:01:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-08T05:01:00.616-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='preaching'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='conferences'/><title type='text'>Middle TN Bible Conference, April 29</title><content type='html'>On Thursday, April 29, &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/greg_thornbury"&gt;Greg Thornbury&lt;/a&gt; and I will be the speakers for a one day Bible conference with the theme, &lt;a href="http://www.uu.edu/hendersonville/events/BibleConference_Flyer_Sp10.pdf"&gt;“Communicating Familiar Bible Stories in Unfamiliar Ways,”&lt;/a&gt; hosted by Union University, Hendersonville. We will be considering the familiar pastoral struggle of preaching texts which you feel like the people already know very well. Pastors often speak of this struggle in connection with Christmas and Easter.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We had a great time with the attendees last year as &lt;a href="http://www.uu.edu/audio/event.cfm?ID=2516"&gt;we considered the return of Christ&lt;/a&gt;, so we look forward to this year as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Registration is required, but it is free. Lunch is also provided for free.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-3111768532070022233?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/3111768532070022233/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=3111768532070022233' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/3111768532070022233'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/3111768532070022233'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/04/middle-tn-bible-conference-april-29.html' title='Middle TN Bible Conference, April 29'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-2695598908961823148</id><published>2010-04-07T15:33:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-07T15:33:13.314-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='apologetics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='books'/><title type='text'>The Making of an Atheist, by Jim Spiegel</title><content type='html'>&lt;span&gt;&lt;iframe align="left" frameborder="0" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" scrolling="no" src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;p=8&amp;amp;l=bpl&amp;amp;asins=0802476112&amp;amp;fc1=000000&amp;amp;IS2=1&amp;amp;lt1=_blank&amp;amp;m=amazon&amp;amp;lc1=0000FF&amp;amp;bc1=000000&amp;amp;bg1=FFFFFF&amp;amp;f=ifr" style="align: left; height: 245px; padding-right: 10px; padding-top: 5px; width: 131px;"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/span&gt;I have previously mentioned &lt;a href="http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/02/making-of-atheist-blog-tour.html"&gt;the blog tour&lt;/a&gt; for this book and made some &lt;a href="http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/02/making-of-atheist.html"&gt;preliminary comments about it&lt;/a&gt;. My appreciation of the book only grew as I finished it. It has often been said- correctly I think- that we need more very well done short books on important topics. This is one of those books. In short compass, in a very readable and engaging manner, Spiegel lays out the biblical teaching on how sin blinds us. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Spiegel states that the “the ultimate point” of the book is “to encourage us to look elsewhere besides appraisal of the evidence for the real explanation of atheism” (23-24). Much of the approach of Christians toward atheists is based on the idea that what is needed is more evidence, a better rational explanation. However, Spiegel argues, the real problem is not academic or rational but moral and psychological. He notes:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“A common way of thinking about the relationship between cognition and conduct is to regard belief as always determining behavior. We have a certain belief and choose to act on it. But the above passages [Eph. 4:17-19; Rom. 1:18-24, 28-29] suggest that it works the other way around, too” (54)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“What they (such passages) do point to is a certain moral corruption that influences how they (unbelievers) use their cognitive faculties. It is not intelligence they lack so much as self-control and the right values” (52).&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Speigel also points to some candid remarks by prominent atheists.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Aldous Huxley:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“For myself as, no doubt, for most of my contemporaries, the philosophy of meaninglessness was essentially an instrument of liberation. The liberation we desired was simultaneously liberation from a certain political and economic system and liberation from a certain system of morality. We objected to the morality because it interfered with our sexual freedom.” 73&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Most ignorance is vincible ignorance. We don’t know because we don’t want to know. It is our will that decides how and upon what subjects we shall use our intelligence. Those who detect no meaning in the world generally do so because, for one reason or another, it suits their books that the world should be meaningless.” 73&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;William James&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“If your heart does not want a world of moral reality, your head will assuredly never make you believe in one.” 84&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This truth, that our behavior shapes our belief and that mankind in our fallen state actively hide from God, is an important one for us to reaffirm. It will inform life an ministry in many ways. Reasoned apologetics has a place, but we must realize that rebellion is what must be cured and only God through his gospel can do this (2 Cor 4:1-6). This also means that living out the gospel has great apologetic value. Spiegel writes:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“…there is apologetic power in a life well-lived.” (116)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Personal virtue and self-sacrifice are the most effective tools of persuasion. . . . When it comes to proving religious truth, an ounce of love is worth a ton of argument.” (116-117)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“…the more virtuously one lives, the more truth one is able to access…” (117)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“…one’s sinful commitments cause cognitive interference by the will . . . . In order to apprehend truth, which is the goal of the intellectual life, one must live a moral life.” (118)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a great, helpful little book and I encourage you to read it. I have already bought a copy for our church library and am planning to make it required reading for one of my courses.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-2695598908961823148?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/2695598908961823148/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=2695598908961823148' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2695598908961823148'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2695598908961823148'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/04/making-of-atheist-by-jim-spiegel.html' title='The Making of an Atheist, by Jim Spiegel'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-7042518653675938428</id><published>2010-04-07T05:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-07T05:00:00.235-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='lord&apos;s supper'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='communion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='examples'/><title type='text'>Martin Bucer on the Lord’s Supper</title><content type='html'>These themes I found valuable: &lt;br /&gt;- communion is a gift from God given because we need it&lt;br /&gt;- frequency&lt;br /&gt;- the tone of thankfulness and joyful triumph&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“The Lord, therefore, out of his great and ineffable love, has ordained and appointed for us a sacred supper in which he gives us his body and blood, in order that we through him and in him may become a new and divine flesh-and-blood and ever more fully live in him and he in us, with a life truly divine. We should receive these great and precious gifts as frequently as possible with sincere devotion and utter thankfulness, and in the act of receiving commit ourselves ever more completely to him and proclaim triumphantly and declare to others by word and deed his death and our redemption.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;(Martin Bucer, “A Brief Statement or Instruction on How the Sick Should Be Visited by the Ministers of the Church and the Procedure to Be Followed in Their Homes, about 1549.” In &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Protestant-Spirituality-Lassics-Western-Classics/dp/0809142112?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Early Protestant Spirituality &lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0809142112" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;(The Classics of Western Spirituality). Edited and translated by Scott H. Hendrix.)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-7042518653675938428?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/7042518653675938428/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=7042518653675938428' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/7042518653675938428'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/7042518653675938428'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/04/martin-bucer-on-lords-supper.html' title='Martin Bucer on the Lord’s Supper'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-2241333086574732381</id><published>2010-04-06T11:59:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-06T11:59:37.936-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='don whitney'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='prayer'/><title type='text'>Whitney, “Learning to Pray Scripture”</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S7toWknoR2I/AAAAAAAAAlo/c0mEv7rKGX8/s1600/don+whitney.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" nt="true" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S7toWknoR2I/AAAAAAAAAlo/c0mEv7rKGX8/s200/don+whitney.jpg" width="192" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Don Whitney will be on campus at &lt;a href="http://www.uu.edu/"&gt;Union University&lt;/a&gt; this week, Thursday, April 8, leading a seminar titled “Learning to Pray Scripture.” The public is invited. The seminar will meet from 1:00-3:00 pm in &lt;a href="http://www.uu.edu/jackson/map.cfm"&gt;Luther Hall&lt;/a&gt;. It is free and refreshments will be provided.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dr. Whitney lead a similar seminar last Spring focusing on praying the Psalms and it was very beneficial. If you are in this area this will be a great opportunity for helpful and encouraging teaching.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you would like more information you can contact &lt;a href="http://www.uu.edu/campusministries/staff.cfm"&gt;Campus Ministries&lt;/a&gt; at 661-5061.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-2241333086574732381?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/2241333086574732381/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=2241333086574732381' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2241333086574732381'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2241333086574732381'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/04/whitney-learning-to-pray-scripture.html' title='Whitney, “Learning to Pray Scripture”'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S7toWknoR2I/AAAAAAAAAlo/c0mEv7rKGX8/s72-c/don+whitney.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-9195706105126514843</id><published>2010-03-30T05:45:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-03-30T05:45:00.159-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='gospel'/><title type='text'>The Gospel and the Mind, Brad Green</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Mind-Recovering-Shaping-Intellectual/dp/1433514427?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=bil&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img alt="The Gospel and the Mind: Recovering and Shaping the Intellectual Life" src="http://ws.amazon.com/widgets/q?MarketPlace=US&amp;amp;ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;amp;ID=AsinImage&amp;amp;WS=1&amp;amp;Format=_SL160_&amp;amp;ASIN=1433514427&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=bil&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1433514427" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bradleyggreen.com/"&gt;Brad Green’s&lt;/a&gt; new book, &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Mind-Recovering-Shaping-Intellectual/dp/1433514427?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;The Gospel and the Mind: Recovering and Shaping the Intellectual Life &lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1433514427" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;Crossway) is now available. Since Brad is a good friend and colleague, I have had the privilege of hearing him discuss portions of this book along the way, and can testify that this will be a very helpful book. I look forward to reading it!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-9195706105126514843?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/9195706105126514843/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=9195706105126514843' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/9195706105126514843'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/9195706105126514843'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/03/gospel-and-mind-brad-green.html' title='The Gospel and the Mind, Brad Green'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-1563600446841456814</id><published>2010-03-29T22:46:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-03-29T22:46:39.998-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='psalms'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='history'/><title type='text'>Alfred the Great on the Psalms</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/White-Horse-King-Alfred-Great/dp/1595552529?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=bil&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img alt="The White Horse King: The Life of Alfred the Great" src="http://ws.amazon.com/widgets/q?MarketPlace=US&amp;amp;ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;amp;ID=AsinImage&amp;amp;WS=1&amp;amp;Format=_SL160_&amp;amp;ASIN=1595552529&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=bil&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1595552529" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Another striking thing from Ben Merkle’s book, &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/White-Horse-King-Alfred-Great/dp/1595552529?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;The White Horse King: The Life of Alfred the Great&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1595552529" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, was the value he saw in the Psalms. Well before Wycliffe, Alfred, King of Wessex, was translating the Psalms for his people as part of his “essential books everyone should read” project.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;“The translation of the Psalms was Alfred’s last project, being only one-third complete at the king’s death. These psalms, primarily the songs of King David composed throughout the king of Israel’s tumultuous reign, had always had a special place in Alfred’s heart. Having memorized many of the psalms in his youth, Alfred had used these sacred words throughout his life to embolden himself in battle, encourage himself in despondency, humble himself in his sins, and comfort himself in his forgiveness. The entire spectrum of Alfred’s personal trials and triumphs seemed to have been lived out already by the shepherd king of Israel. More than any other text, the book of Psalms had become the poetry of Alfred’s life.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus, it is no surprise that when searching for the ‘books most necessary for all men to know,’ Alfred’s thoughts turned to the book of Psalms. This was fit reading material for the king and for the peasant, for the warrior and for the clergyman, for the novice and for the sage. Interestingly, of all the texts Alfred translated, the king’s rendering of the Psalms remained the most consistently literal throughout, with very little of the king’s own explanatory additions to the text. Alfred felt this was a book that needed little assistance in speaking to the Anglo-Saxon heart.” (191)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-1563600446841456814?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/1563600446841456814/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=1563600446841456814' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1563600446841456814'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1563600446841456814'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/03/alfred-great-on-psalms.html' title='Alfred the Great on the Psalms'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-6219617854801975284</id><published>2010-03-26T05:27:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-03-26T05:27:00.377-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='history'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='reading'/><title type='text'>The White Horse King: The Life of Alfred the Great</title><content type='html'>I recently read Benjamin Merkle’s &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/White-Horse-King-Alfred-Great/dp/1595552529?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;The White Horse King: The Life of Alfred the Great &lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1595552529" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;(not the Ben Merkle at Southeastern Seminary). I have commented often here on the value of history reading for pastors (as well as others), and this book has much value in this realm as well. Alfred was an amazing man who accomplished much.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first six chapters of the book primarily tell of the struggle of Alfred and his predecessors against the Viking invasions. There are compelling battle stories and reminders of the blessing of peace. Also the description of the “shield wall” formation used in battle provides a powerful picture of church unity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The great strength of the book in my opinion, though, is chapter seven which describes Alfred’s effort to rejuvenate his country. They had resisted the foreign invader, but he realized they needed more to ensure domestic health. He believed the Vikings were only a symptom of the greater problem of his people’s turn away from Christianity and the resultant loss of learning and character. Here are a few quotes:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“The English church had grown complacent, indolent, and lethargic. Numbed by their prosperity, their love of learning grew cold, and their interest in Christian study died off altogether. . . . By neglecting the study of the great works of Christendom, the Bible in particular, the Anglo-Saxon people had lost not only the ability to read but more important, the ability to understand the wisdom of God. England, through her intellectual lethargy, was slowly devolving into a pagan nation, a people who neither knew nor served the Christian God.” (179)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“If Christian virtue were to return to England, then the Anglo-Saxons would need to return to Christian learning. With an eye toward restoring this learned piety to the people, Alfred orchestrated a tremendous revival of literacy, a revival that culminated in the greatest literary renaissance ever experienced in Anglo-Saxon Britain.” (184)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Alfred truly was the great king of England, the one monarch who rightly understood the needs of the nation and unrelentingly gave all he had to supply those needs.&lt;br /&gt;England, and the many nations descended from her, still have Alfred to thank for a substantial portion of the heritage and freedoms that they enjoy today. The title ‘Alfred the Great,’ so strangely offensive to the modern ear, was well deserved by the Anglo-Saxon warrior-king.” (233)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is much to glean from Alfred on the work of restoring a culture, of the value of learning, and the renewal of the church.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-6219617854801975284?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/6219617854801975284/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=6219617854801975284' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6219617854801975284'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6219617854801975284'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/03/white-horse-king-life-of-alfred-great.html' title='The White Horse King: The Life of Alfred the Great'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-6661301591467922961</id><published>2010-03-25T14:07:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-03-25T14:07:24.513-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='work'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='1 Thessalonians'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='defining ministry'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Calvin'/><title type='text'>Pastoral Ministry: Hard Work for the Salvation of Souls and the Restoration of the World</title><content type='html'>Calvin &lt;a href="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/calvin/calcom42.vi.vii.iii.html"&gt;commenting on 1 Thessalonians 5:12-13&lt;/a&gt; states well the importance of hard work in pastoral ministry and what our work actually is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In the first place, he says that they labor. From this it follows, that &lt;strong&gt;all idle bellies are excluded from the number of pastors&lt;/strong&gt;. Farther, he expresses the kind of labor when he adds, those that admonish, or instruct, you. It is to no purpose, therefore, that any, that do not discharge the office of an instructor, glory in the name of pastors. ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, &lt;strong&gt;this work is the edification of the Church, the everlasting salvation of souls, the restoration of the world, and, in fine, the kingdom of God and Christ&lt;/strong&gt;. The excellence and dignity of this work are inestimable: hence those whom God makes ministers in connection with so great a matter, ought to be held by us in great esteem. &lt;/blockquote&gt;(emphasis added)&lt;br /&gt;(HT: Gentry Hill)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-6661301591467922961?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/6661301591467922961/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=6661301591467922961' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6661301591467922961'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6661301591467922961'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/03/pastoral-ministry-hard-work-for.html' title='Pastoral Ministry: Hard Work for the Salvation of Souls and the Restoration of the World'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-367216798991554892</id><published>2010-03-24T05:20:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-03-24T07:14:41.174-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pastoral care'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='resources'/><title type='text'>Practical Shepherding, new blog</title><content type='html'>Brian Croft, pastor of Auburndale Baptist Church, Louisville, KY, is a faithful pastor whom I am blessed to call a friend. He has written two very helpful books on pastoral ministry (&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Visit-Sick-Ministering-Illness-Masters/dp/1846251435?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Visit the Sick&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1846251435" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&amp;amp; &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Test-Train-Affirm-Send-Ministry/dp/1846251974?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Test, Train, Affirm, and Send into Ministry: Recovering the Local Church’s Responsibility to the External Call&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1846251974" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;), so I am pleased that he has launched a blog dedicated to specific issues in pastoral ministry. It is titled &lt;a href="http://www.briancroft.wordpress.com/"&gt;Practical Shepherding&lt;/a&gt;. Some of his current posts deal with helping a wife who is hurt by her husband’s use of pornography, ministering to widows, and identifying men in your church who are called for ministry. This is useful material for pastors and I encourage you to give it a look.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-367216798991554892?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/367216798991554892/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=367216798991554892' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/367216798991554892'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/367216798991554892'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/03/practical-shepherding-new-blog.html' title='Practical Shepherding, new blog'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-250509516712124105</id><published>2010-03-23T05:21:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-03-23T05:21:00.263-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Watts'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='communion'/><title type='text'>Communion with Christ and with the Saints</title><content type='html'>"Communion with Christ and with the Saints"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Isaac Watts&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesus invites His saints&lt;br /&gt;To meet around His board;&lt;br /&gt;Here pardoned rebels sit and hold&lt;br /&gt;Communion with their Lord.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For food He gives His flesh,&lt;br /&gt;He bids us drink His blood;&lt;br /&gt;Amazing favor, matchless grace&lt;br /&gt;Of our descending God!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This holy bread and wine&lt;br /&gt;Maintains our fainting breath,&lt;br /&gt;By union with our Living Lord,&lt;br /&gt;And interest in His death.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our heavenly Father calls&lt;br /&gt;Christ and His members one;&lt;br /&gt;We, the young children of His love,&lt;br /&gt;And He, the firstborn Son.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are but several parts&lt;br /&gt;Of the same broken bread;&lt;br /&gt;One body hath its several limbs,&lt;br /&gt;But Jesus is the Head.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let all our powers be joined&lt;br /&gt;His glorious name to raise;&lt;br /&gt;Pleasure and love fill every mind,&lt;br /&gt;And every voice be praise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Quoted in &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Worthy-Lamb-Puritan-Poetry-Christ/dp/1573581593?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Worthy Is the Lamb: Puritan Poetry in Honor of Christ&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1573581593" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maureen Bradley; Edited by Don Kistler and Joel Rishel (page 238)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-250509516712124105?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/250509516712124105/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=250509516712124105' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/250509516712124105'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/250509516712124105'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/03/communion-with-christ-and-with-saints.html' title='Communion with Christ and with the Saints'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-4781637791798758070</id><published>2010-03-22T05:05:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-03-22T05:05:00.929-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='defining ministry'/><title type='text'>Don’t Seduce the Church</title><content type='html'>Here is a good warning to preachers against exalting ourselves before the church:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“For that man is an enemy to his Redeemer who on the strength of the good works he performs, desires to be loved by the Church, rather than by Him. Indeed, a servant is guilty of adulterous thought, if he craves to please the eyes of the bride when the bridegroom sends gifts to her by him.” (&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Gregory-Pastoral-Ancient-Christian-Writers/dp/080910251X?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Gregory the Great, Pastoral Care&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=080910251X" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;, 75)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-4781637791798758070?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/4781637791798758070/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=4781637791798758070' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4781637791798758070'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4781637791798758070'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/03/dont-seduce-church.html' title='Don’t Seduce the Church'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-1545687106121898715</id><published>2010-03-20T23:05:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-03-20T23:05:11.437-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='resurrection'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='hope'/><title type='text'>Longing for Resurrection</title><content type='html'>Even the ancient pagan stories bear witness to the universal human longing to overcome death. In the Aeneid Aeneas begs for permission to visit the realm of the dead to consult his father. In response he is told by the prophetess:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The gates of hell are open night and day; &lt;br /&gt;Smooth the descent, and easy is the way: &lt;br /&gt;But to return, and view the cheerful skies, &lt;br /&gt;In this the task and mighty labor lies. (&lt;a href="http://classics.mit.edu/Virgil/aeneid.6.vi.html"&gt;Dryden trans&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;Indeed! It is easy to enter the realm of the dead. To come back out, that is the trouble. We gather in the morning to worship the one who did just this, who entered death and emerged triumphant enabling all his people to do the same. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The prophetess tells Aeneas that only a few in Greco-Roman mythology have been able to re-emerge from the realm of the dead and they were all semi-divine sons of gods. In fact only one conquered death, the fully divine Son of God. And, now He has made it possible for all those who believe in him to be made children of God who will also re-emerge from the realm of the dead.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Death is swallowed up in victory.”&lt;br /&gt;“O death, where is your victory?&lt;br /&gt;O death, where is your sting?”&lt;br /&gt;The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. (1 Cor 15:54b-57)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-1545687106121898715?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/1545687106121898715/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=1545687106121898715' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1545687106121898715'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1545687106121898715'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/03/longing-for-resurrection.html' title='Longing for Resurrection'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-1294380338388340307</id><published>2010-03-18T05:02:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-03-18T05:02:00.271-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pastoral care'/><title type='text'>Testimony</title><content type='html'>I have often commented here on the importance of pastors being involved in the lives of their people. Here is a comment from a student paper in my pastoral ministry class affirming this truth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“My best memory of my pastor is not a great sermon that he preached, but the fact that he invited me into his home on Thanksgiving when he found out my step-dad was in the hospital and my family wasn’t having a Thanksgiving dinner. I feel like I learned more from that than I have from a message he preached, and through him doing that I’m more prone to listen to his messages and believe him on Sundays.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-1294380338388340307?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/1294380338388340307/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=1294380338388340307' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1294380338388340307'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1294380338388340307'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/03/testimony.html' title='Testimony'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-4141469447456606121</id><published>2010-03-17T05:54:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-03-17T05:54:00.187-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='elderly'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='examples'/><title type='text'>Older Saints are a Treasure</title><content type='html'>In our age which idolizes youth we often miss the biblical teaching which esteems age and, as a result, miss the treasure that our older saints are. They are a great blessing to the church too often overlooked.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Recently I had the opportunity to converse with an elderly lady from out of town. She has memories of life during World War II and primarily told me of her father, a faithful man of God of whom she is very proud. She related incident after incident where God intervened and provided for her father or for her in amazing and sometimes miraculous ways. These were not the outlandish fantasies of youth but the measured steady testimony of one who has walked with God for many decades. She often apologized for “going on” and said apologetically, “I could keep you here for a year with such stories.” I assured her that hearing these was good for my soul.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I started to leave, but some comment stirred another story. She related how her marriage had been difficult years ago when her husband, whom I had just met, was unconverted. There was a time when he was regularly drunk and abusive. Her children had even intervened at one point offering her the opportunity to move in with them or with another friend. She told me what she had said to them. “No. You do not understand. I chose to marry this man. I was only 17 at the time, but I promised ‘for better or for worse.’ Right now all you see is the worst. But a better day is coming.” A few years later he was converted and has now walked with the Lord for years. I had noticed earlier in the visit his Bible, pen and brief commentary situated neatly at a table where he obviously met with God regularly. He now serves as a deacon and was at that moment out making visits for the church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What a blessing to see and hear faithfulness and God’s care lived out. Take time to hear the stories of those who have walked with God for years. Thank God for the gift of senior saints.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-4141469447456606121?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/4141469447456606121/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=4141469447456606121' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4141469447456606121'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4141469447456606121'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/03/older-saints-are-treasure.html' title='Older Saints are a Treasure'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-6307703165624613528</id><published>2010-03-16T13:58:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-03-16T13:58:08.939-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='humility'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='wisdom'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ray Ortlund'/><title type='text'>Ortlind on Wisdom</title><content type='html'>Ray Ortlund, always worth hearing, has a good word on &lt;a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/rayortlund/2010/03/16/how-to-become-a-sage/"&gt;"How to become a Sage."&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;Here is an excerpt:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Principle: The further we advance in Christ, the more we marvel at his untapped riches.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Corollary: The more we feel people need our opinions, the more obvious it is they don’t.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another corollary: The more we feel we have to learn, the more we might have to offer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, how to become a sage? “Let the wise hear . . . .”&lt;/blockquote&gt;So true.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-6307703165624613528?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/6307703165624613528/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=6307703165624613528' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6307703165624613528'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6307703165624613528'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/03/ortlind-on-wisdom.html' title='Ortlind on Wisdom'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-2552588439440164188</id><published>2010-03-09T15:54:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2010-03-09T21:12:35.556-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pastoral care'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='leadership'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='oversight'/><title type='text'>“Strive to Be Ordinary”</title><content type='html'>In my Pastoral Ministry class today &lt;a href="http://bjmaxwell.com/"&gt;B. J. Maxwell&lt;/a&gt;, pastor of Unity Baptist in Millington, TN, gave a lecture titled, “Strive to Be Ordinary.” It was an excellent exhortation to pursue faithful ministry to people rather than the trappings of success. I attempted to record it but was unsuccessful. The manuscript should be available soon, and I will link to it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maxwell began by rooting pastoral ministry in a proper understanding of the church. Is it a business to keep profitable? A team to be coached? A brand to be marketed? Or God's redeemed and sojourning people who need shepherding on their journey home? Because the church is a unique entity, pastoral ministry is a one-of-a-kind service. It cannot be approached or defined by categories of this world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He described pastoral ministry as helping people to die well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The heart of the presentation was “five rungs for climbing down the ladder toward ordinariness.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;1. Get acquainted with suffering&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Develop a theology or vocabulary of encouragement. Learn how to encourage God’s people with the gospel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. Focus largely on micro-ministry before macro-ministry (i.e. needs of specific people before structural or programmatic issues)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. Think in terms of decades and generations rather than weeks and years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Work today not with an eye to impressing the state paper, but with an eye to shaping your grandchildren.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. Recover simple personal discipleship&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;UPDATE:&lt;/strong&gt; The manuscript is now available &lt;a href="http://bjmaxwell.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/pastoral-ministry1.pdf"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. Highly recommended!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-2552588439440164188?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/2552588439440164188/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=2552588439440164188' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2552588439440164188'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2552588439440164188'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/03/strive-to-be-ordinary.html' title='“Strive to Be Ordinary”'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-4459248246306817900</id><published>2010-03-08T16:41:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-03-08T16:41:49.116-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='poetry'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='hymns'/><title type='text'>Why Johnny Can’t Sing Hymns</title><content type='html'>Justin Wainscott has a fascinating, provocative &lt;a href="http://theologyinverse.blogspot.com/2010/03/interview-with-t-david-gordon-on-why.html"&gt;interview at his site with Dr. T. David Gordon&lt;/a&gt;, author of &lt;em&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Why-Johnny-Cant-Preach-Messengers/dp/1596381167?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Why Johnny Can't Preach: The Media Have Shaped the Messengers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1596381167" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. The interview is about Gordon’s sequel, Why Johnny Can't Sing Hymns: How Pop Culture Re-Wrote the Hymnal (to be published by P&amp;amp;R early this summer). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wainscott’s questions and Gordon’s answers are provocative and helpful. Here is one excerpt from Gordon.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;There probably is a relationship between not reading poetry and tolerating contemporary worship music. If one reads poetry, one comes to appreciate language that is well-crafted; in the process, one becomes less accepting of language that is poorly crafted. So, most contemporary worship makes me cringe not only musically but also lyrically (not to mention theologically). The commercial forces in our culture want us to be content with pablum, because it is easier to produce pablum than really good stuff. Those commercial forces have pushed us away from demanding disciplines such as reading verse (where there is almost no room for significant commercial profit); and in the process, we as a culture no longer notice inferior art, because we are surrounded by it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Check out &lt;a href="http://theologyinverse.blogspot.com/2010/03/interview-with-t-david-gordon-on-why.html"&gt;the interview&lt;/a&gt;. This is a book I will be watching for.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-4459248246306817900?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/4459248246306817900/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=4459248246306817900' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4459248246306817900'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4459248246306817900'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/03/why-johnny-cant-sing-hymns.html' title='Why Johnny Can’t Sing Hymns'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-766376899147993209</id><published>2010-03-07T22:08:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-03-07T22:08:43.545-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='oversight'/><title type='text'>Oversight of Souls PowerPoint</title><content type='html'>I have had several requests for the PowerPoint slides with historical quotes on the place of oversight in pastoral ministry which I have used in an &lt;a href="http://uu.edu/audio/Detail.cfm?ID=438"&gt;address here at Union&lt;/a&gt; and last month at the Midwest Regional Founders Conference. Almost all of those quotes have previously appeared on this site. However, the slides (in &lt;a href="http://uu.edu/centers/biblical/documents/OversightofSouls.ppt"&gt;PowerPoint&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="http://uu.edu/centers/biblical/documents/OversightofSouls.pdf"&gt;PDF&lt;/a&gt;) are now available.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May these echoes from the past stir us all to faithful shepherding.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-766376899147993209?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/766376899147993209/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=766376899147993209' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/766376899147993209'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/766376899147993209'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/03/oversight-of-souls-powerpoint.html' title='Oversight of Souls PowerPoint'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-6483863261600674254</id><published>2010-03-05T22:59:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-03-05T22:59:29.253-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Old Testament'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='wisdom'/><title type='text'>Solomon and Pastoral Wisdom</title><content type='html'>This past Sunday Lee Tankersely preached &lt;a href="http://cccjackson.org/sermon.php?ID=565"&gt;a good message on 1 Kings 3-11&lt;/a&gt;, Solomon’s rise &amp;amp; fall. Chapter 3 caught me afresh with implications for pastoral ministry. As Solomon came to the throne the Lord essentially granted him a wish. We know he asked for wisdom and this pleased the Lord so that the Lord gave Solomon wisdom plus wealth, honor and long life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Davidic king is not a type of the New Testament pastor, but there are some lesser parallels here. Solomon in chapter three is beginning his role of leading the people of God. If God, as you began a new pastorate, offered you any wish in regards to your ministry, what would you ask for? Longevity? Increase, of wealth or membership? Honor? Or wisdom so that we might shepherd God’s people well?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What struck me was the motivation Solomon gives for his request for wisdom. We know he learned from his father the value of wisdom. But, he does not say, “I know wisdom is the greatest thing so please give me wisdom.” His request is not so abstract. Rather, he acknowledges his inexperience (“I am but a little child. I do not know how to go out or come in”, v. 7) and the greatness of the people. His request arises from humility, acknowledging the greatness of the task and his need for divine aid to adequately lead the people of God. Surely God’s pleasure in this request is tied not only to God’s esteem of wisdom, but even more so to God’s love for His people and his desire for leaders to care for His people (cf. Acts 20).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Surely pastors today realize our own inability to adequately shepherd the people of God. Rather than dreaming of large numbers or wide acclaim, let us ask God for wisdom to lead God’s people well. This will please God.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-6483863261600674254?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/6483863261600674254/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=6483863261600674254' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6483863261600674254'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6483863261600674254'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/03/solomon-and-pastoral-wisdom.html' title='Solomon and Pastoral Wisdom'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-5391434858652841465</id><published>2010-03-05T12:34:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-03-05T12:34:24.769-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='communion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ray Ortlund'/><title type='text'>Joy in Communion, Once More</title><content type='html'>I have previously commented here on the fact that we should come joyfully to the Lord’s table contrary to some practice and teaching we have received. &lt;a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/rayortlund/2010/03/04/with-a-holy-cheerfulness/"&gt;Ray Ortlund recently posted&lt;/a&gt; this quote which nicely affirms this point as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“We come as children to our Father’s table and to sit there with Jesus Christ, our elder brother. Now a father does not love to have his child sitting in a sullen and dogged way at his table or to be crying, but would rather have the child sitting in comfort with a holy cheerfulness, with a holy freedom of spirit, not in a sullen way, but as a child in the presence of his father, and not as a servant with the master.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jeremiah Burroughs, &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Worship-Jeremiah-Burroughs/dp/1877611123?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Gospel Worship&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1877611123" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; (Ligonier, 1990), page 330.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-5391434858652841465?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/5391434858652841465/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=5391434858652841465' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/5391434858652841465'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/5391434858652841465'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/03/joy-in-communion-once-more.html' title='Joy in Communion, Once More'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-648609461897293528</id><published>2010-02-26T11:15:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-02-26T11:15:36.486-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='funeral'/><title type='text'>Funeral Message by Eric Smith</title><content type='html'>Eric Smith has posted &lt;a href="http://ericcsmith.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/everlasting-love-for-frail-children-of-dust-the-gospel-of-jesus-in-the-life-of-my-grand-dad/"&gt;the audio of the message he preached at his grandfather’s funeral&lt;/a&gt; a couple of weeks ago. I was privileged to hear this message in person, and I commend it you. It is helpful in several ways. First, it is a moving tribute to the impact of a man’s life on those in his family. I was deeply moved and yearned all the more to lead my family well. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, it is a good example of a funeral message. Funeral messages can be a real challenge. Eric’s grandfather is a believer so that helps greatly. Often, though, I talk with pastors who seem hesitant to highlight the grace of God evident in the lives of people. In an effort not to substitute the praise of man for the praise of God, we can forget that we see the grace of God by what He does through people. Eric recounts various ways God blessed him through his grandfather all the while pointing out that every good gift comes from God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am thankful this message was recorded and is now available. I requested it that very day, and now I &lt;a href="http://ericcsmith.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/everlasting-love-for-frail-children-of-dust-the-gospel-of-jesus-in-the-life-of-my-grand-dad/"&gt;commend it to you&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-648609461897293528?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/648609461897293528/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=648609461897293528' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/648609461897293528'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/648609461897293528'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/02/funeral-message-by-eric-smith.html' title='Funeral Message by Eric Smith'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-3287207232392281241</id><published>2010-02-25T16:10:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-02-25T16:10:43.731-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Old Testament'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='preaching'/><title type='text'>Preaching Christ in the OT</title><content type='html'>At the &lt;a href="http://www.founders.org/misc/2010fcmwbs.pdf"&gt;MidWest Founders Conference&lt;/a&gt; this week I recommended Lee Tankersley’s sermons as good examples of preaching Christ from the Old Testament. For anyone following up, you can find &lt;a href="http://www.cccnow.org/sermon_book.php"&gt;those sermons here&lt;/a&gt;. You could begin with &lt;a href="http://www.cccnow.org/sermon.php?ID=564"&gt;the sermon from this past Sunday on 1 Kings 1-2&lt;/a&gt;. Lee does a good job of noting some of the practical items in the text (implications for fathering in this instance) as well as showing how the text ultimately points to Christ.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-3287207232392281241?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/3287207232392281241/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=3287207232392281241' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/3287207232392281241'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/3287207232392281241'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/02/preaching-christ-in-ot.html' title='Preaching Christ in the OT'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-4709257351070940932</id><published>2010-02-22T15:49:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-02-22T15:49:01.872-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='servanthood'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='humility'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='examples'/><title type='text'>Not Stars but Servants</title><content type='html'>&lt;blockquote&gt;“What then is Apollos? What is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, as the Lord assigned to each. I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the growth. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth. He who plants and he who waters are one, and each will receive his wages according to his labor. For we are God's fellow workers. You are God's field, God's building.” (Paul, 1 Cor 3:5-9)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“The Church does not need brilliant personalities but faithful servants of Jesus and the brethren. Not in the former but in the latter is the lack.” (D. Bonhoeffer, &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Life-Together-Classic-Exploration-Community/dp/0060608528?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Life Together&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0060608528" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px! important; padding-left: 0px! important; padding-right: 0px! important; padding-top: 0px! important;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, 109)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Preachers are not celebrities and Christians are not to act like groupies.” (&lt;a href="http://twitter.com/tomascol/status/9390720348"&gt;Tom Ascol&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a key point for those of us who lead in God’s church. It is a wicked thing for the servant of the groom to seduce the affections of the bride.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These quotes came together in my mind as I reread today this excerpt from &lt;a href="http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2006/03/long-term-ministry.html"&gt;a previous post&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I just came across an essay by Geoff Thomas which addresses this. It is entitled, “Find a Place to Settle,” and is contained in &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Dear-Timothy-Letters-Pastoral-Ministry/dp/0971336156?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Dear Timothy: Letters on Pastoral Ministry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0971336156" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px! important; padding-left: 0px! important; padding-right: 0px! important; padding-top: 0px! important;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, ed. Tom Ascol (Cape Coral, FL: Founders Press, 2004). In this quote below Thomas provides an extended quote from Dr. James Stalker on his experience watching a man who had had such an extended ministry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“It was my happiness, when I was ordained, to be settled next… to an aged and saintly minister. He was a man of competent scholarship, and had the reputation of having been in early life a powerful and popular preacher. But it was not to these gifts that he owed his unique influence. He moved through the town, with his white hair and somewhat staid and dignified demeanour, as a hallowing presence. His very passing in the street was a kind of benediction, and the people, as they looked after him, spoke of him to each other with affectionate veneration, children were proud when he laid his hand on their heads, and they treasured the kindly words which he spoke to them. At funerals and other seasons of domestic solemnity his presence was sought by people of all denominations. We who labored along with him in the ministry felt that his mere existence in the community was an irresistible demonstration of Christianity and a tower of strength to every good cause. Yet he had not gained this position of influence by brilliant talents or great achievements or the pushing of ambition; for he was singularly modest, and would have been the last to credit himself with half the good he did. The whole mystery lay in this, that he had lived in the town for forty years a blameless life, and was known, by everybody to be a godly and prayerful man. He was good enough to honour me with his friendship; and his example wrote deeply upon my mind these two convictions—that it may sometimes be of immense advantage to spend a whole life time in a single pastorate, and that the prime qualification for the ministry is godliness.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The man to whom he was referring was a certain James Black of Dunnikier and little more than that paragraph of Stalker’s is known of the man or even the place where he labored. Dunnikier is too small to appear in any British atlas. Black was one that army of holy men who have served the Lord in obscure communities modestly and humbly for no reward other than the immense privilege of having so great a Master as our Christ. (pp. 363-364)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May we see more of this sort of ministry.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-4709257351070940932?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/4709257351070940932/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=4709257351070940932' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4709257351070940932'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4709257351070940932'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/02/not-stars-but-servants.html' title='Not Stars but Servants'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-775741943635617729</id><published>2010-02-20T21:38:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2010-02-20T23:14:13.472-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pastoral care'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='oversight'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='conferences'/><title type='text'>Shepherding Conference Update</title><content type='html'>As I &lt;a href="http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/01/conference-shepherding-gods-flock.html"&gt;previously mentioned&lt;/a&gt; the conference &lt;a href="http://www.founders.org/misc/2010fcmwbs.pdf"&gt;“Pastoral Ministry: Shepherding God’s Flock”&lt;/a&gt; is coming up Tuesday and Wednesday of next week in the St. Louis area. The schedule has been adjusted, however. Dr. John Thornbury who was to speak has had to have heart surgery, and, therefore, will not be able to participate. I am told he is recovering well, and we will miss the opportunity to hear from him. Dr. Phil Newton, pastor of Southwoods Baptist Church in the Memphis area, will now be joining us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The revised schedule is as follows:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Tuesday, February 23, 2010&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;12:00 Registration&lt;br /&gt;1:30 “Pastoral Ministry” Dr. Phil Newton&lt;br /&gt;3:00 Break&lt;br /&gt;3:30 "Oversight of Souls: The Heart of Pastoral Ministry" Part 1 Dr. Ray Van Neste&lt;br /&gt;5:00 Dinner&lt;br /&gt;6:30 “Gospel Saturated Preaching” Dr. Tom Ascol&lt;br /&gt;Q &amp;amp; A Panel Discussion after Tuesday Evening session&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Wednesday, February 24, 2010&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;9:00 "Oversight of Souls: The Heart of Pastoral Ministry" Part 2 Dr. Ray Van Neste&lt;br /&gt;10:00 Break&lt;br /&gt;10:30 “Pastoral Ministry” Dr. Phil Newton&lt;br /&gt;Noon Lunch&lt;br /&gt;1:30 “Gospel Shaped Ministry” Dr. Tom Ascol&lt;br /&gt;3:00 Break&lt;br /&gt;3:30 “Shepherding a Rebellious People” Dr. Ray Van Neste&lt;br /&gt;5:00 Dinner&lt;br /&gt;6:30 “Jesus Christ: The Pastor’s Message” Dr. Tom Ascol&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-775741943635617729?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/775741943635617729/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=775741943635617729' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/775741943635617729'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/775741943635617729'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/02/shepherding-conference-update.html' title='Shepherding Conference Update'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-8931096694572792810</id><published>2010-02-19T04:27:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-02-19T04:27:00.184-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='culture'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>Should Churches Be as Friendly as a Bar?</title><content type='html'>Mark Galli has a &lt;a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/article_print.html?id=86747"&gt;good article by this title in Christianity Today&lt;/a&gt;. He interacts with a recent survey and those fretting over its results which suggest people do not view churches as being as friendly as bars. He raises good questions about the assumptions of those who fret this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He comments:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Could it be that the culture no longer takes the church seriously because we don't take ourselves seriously? Could it be that the more we strive to be as friendly as a bar, the more we'll be viewed as seriously as people view a bar?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Valuable reading for those of us who lead God’s church to help us make sure we have in view the goals of the Lord of the church rather than the culture around us.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-8931096694572792810?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/8931096694572792810/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=8931096694572792810' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/8931096694572792810'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/8931096694572792810'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/02/should-churches-be-as-friendly-as-bar.html' title='Should Churches Be as Friendly as a Bar?'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-7474969200964350281</id><published>2010-02-18T16:16:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-02-18T16:16:31.338-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='community'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='discipline'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='love'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bonhoeffer'/><title type='text'>Bonhoeffer’s Life Together</title><content type='html'>Last month I finished reading Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s little book, &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Life-Together-Classic-Exploration-Community/dp/0060608528?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Life Together&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0060608528" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px! important; padding-left: 0px! important; padding-right: 0px! important; padding-top: 0px! important;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;. It is truly a spiritual classic. There is so much depth and wisdom here about living the Christian life, particularly living in communion with fellow believers and living in light of the truth having been freely justified in Christ (the imprint of Luther is clear). I was encouraged as I saw much of the practice of my fellow church members reflected here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a day when (in Phil Ryken’s words) “church has become a place you go rather than the community to which you belong” Bonhoeffer’s message is particularly needed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here are a couple of quotes about the value of community:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“The Physical presence of other Christians is a source of incomparable joy and strength to the believer.” (p 19)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“The believer feels no shame, as though he were still living too much in the flesh, when he yearns for the physical presence of other Christians. Man was created a body, the Son of God appeared on earth in the body, he was raised in the body, in the sacrament the believer receives the Lord Christ in the body, and the resurrection of the dead will bring about the perfected fellowship of God’s spiritual-physcial creatures.” (pp. 19-20)&lt;/blockquote&gt;Bonhoeffer also deals with the false community we tend to establish where fake closeness by never really facing sin. He powerfully argues that there is no real intimacy until sin is faced and we can come out on the other side.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Only that fellowship which faces such disillusionment, with all its unhappy and ugly aspects, begins to be what it should be in God’s sight, begins to grasp in faith the promise that is given to it. The sooner this shock of disillusionment comes to an individual and to a community the better for both. A community which cannot bear and cannot survive such a crisis, which insists upon keeping its illusion when it should be shattered, permanently loses in that moment the promise of Christian community.” (p. 27)&lt;/blockquote&gt;Similarly, true love will not call us to indulge one another but to help one another toward Christ-likeness. And our own personal ideas of love will not do. We must look to the Scriptures to teach us what love really looks like.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“I do not know in advance what love for others means on the basis of the general idea of love that grows out of my human desires-all this may rather be hatred and an insidious kind of selfishness in the eyes of Christ. What love is, only Christ tells in his Word.” (p. 35)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Where Christ bids me to maintain fellowship for the sake of love, I will maintain it. Where his truth enjoins me to dissolve a fellowship for love’s sake, there I will dissolve it, despite all the protests of my human love.” (p. 35)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-7474969200964350281?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/7474969200964350281/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=7474969200964350281' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/7474969200964350281'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/7474969200964350281'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/02/bonhoeffers-life-together.html' title='Bonhoeffer’s Life Together'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-1424978101088256752</id><published>2010-02-15T06:11:00.003-06:00</published><updated>2010-02-16T22:32:42.268-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='apologetics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='books'/><title type='text'>Making of an Atheist Blog Tour</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S3YqAgSg24I/AAAAAAAAAlI/EnEM9Pf9FGk/s1600-h/making+of+an+atheist.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" ct="true" height="200" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S3YqAgSg24I/AAAAAAAAAlI/EnEM9Pf9FGk/s200/making+of+an+atheist.jpg" width="131" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a previous post I mentioned Jim Speigel’s new book, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Making-Atheist-Immorality-Leads-Unbelief/dp/0802476112?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;The Making of an Atheist: How Immorality Leads to Unbelief&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0802476112" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px! important; padding-left: 0px! important; padding-right: 0px! important; padding-top: 0px! important;" width="1" /&gt;. Now I can post the full schedule of the blog tour for the book. By visiting these blogs you can get a good overview of the book over the next couple of months.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It will be important for us as pastors to help our people in responding the reinvigorated attacks of prominent atheists.&amp;nbsp; This book will be a great aid.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.epsociety.org/blog/"&gt;EPS Blog&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; February 10-12 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://greatcloud.wordpress.com/"&gt;Cloud of Witnesses&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; February 14-16 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://apologetics.com/"&gt;Apologetics.com&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; February 22-24 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.truthbomb.blogspot.com/"&gt;Truthbomb Apologetics&lt;/a&gt; February 25-27 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://triablogue.blogspot.com/"&gt;Triablogue&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; March 1-3 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://apologetics315.blogspot.com/"&gt;Apologetics 315&lt;/a&gt; March 4-6 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://michaelwaustin.blogspot.com/2009/08/philosophy-for-everyone.html"&gt;Mike Austin’s blog&lt;/a&gt; March 8-10 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://seventhsola.blogspot.com/"&gt;The Seventh Sola&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; March 11-13 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.epsociety.org/blog/"&gt;EPS Blog&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; March 15-17 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/"&gt;Evangel&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/"&gt;TeamPyro&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://douggeivett.wordpress.com/"&gt;Doug Geivett’s blog&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; March 22-24 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.beretta-online.com/wordpress/"&gt;Say Hello to my Little Friend&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; March 25-27 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://pleaseconvinceme.com/"&gt;PleaseConvinceMe.com&lt;/a&gt; March 29-31 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://williamdicks.blogspot.com/"&gt;Just Thinking&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; April 1-3 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oversight of Souls&amp;nbsp; April 5-7 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://theconstructivecurmudgeon.blogspot.com/"&gt;Constructive Curmudgeon&lt;/a&gt; April 8-10 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://afcmin.org/ateam/"&gt;A-Team Blog&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; April 12-14&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-1424978101088256752?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/1424978101088256752/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=1424978101088256752' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1424978101088256752'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1424978101088256752'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/02/making-of-atheist-blog-tour.html' title='Making of an Atheist Blog Tour'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S3YqAgSg24I/AAAAAAAAAlI/EnEM9Pf9FGk/s72-c/making+of+an+atheist.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-6344234891703264064</id><published>2010-02-13T16:17:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-02-13T16:17:50.048-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pastors&apos; wives'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='love'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='marriage'/><title type='text'>Ortlund on Marriage</title><content type='html'>Valentine's Day puts me off because of what is done with it.&amp;nbsp; The world around us does not know what love is and so many of the attempts are sad and tragic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, the love between a husband and wife is a beautiful thing, supposed to mirror the love of Christ for His Church.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/rayortlund/2010/02/13/husband-and-wife/#comment-2181"&gt;Ray Ortlund has spoken powerfully to this in a recent post&lt;/a&gt; which I have pasted in here in full.&amp;nbsp; This is a good word for husbands and wives.&amp;nbsp; I am blessed to have a wife who does as Ortlund describes and "breathes life into her man."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"Let each one of you love his wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.” Ephesians 5:33&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;God made Adam first and put him in the Garden with a job to do, a mission to fulfill. In the heart of every fallen man is the self-doubt that wonders, “Am I man enough to climb this mountain God has called me to? Can I fulfill my destiny?” A wise wife will understand that question at the center of her husband’s heart. And she will spend her life answering it, communicating to him in various ways, “Honey, I believe in your call. I know you can do this, by God’s power. Go for it.” In this way, she will breathe life into her man.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God made Eve from Adam, for Adam, to help him follow the call. In the heart of every fallen woman is the self-doubt that wonders, “Do I please you? Am I what you wanted?” A wise husband will understand that question at the center of his wife’s heart. And he will spend his life answering it, communicating to her in various ways, “Darling, you are the one I need. I cherish you. Let me hold you close.” In this way, he will breathe life into his wife.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-6344234891703264064?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/6344234891703264064/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=6344234891703264064' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6344234891703264064'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6344234891703264064'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/02/ortlund-on-marriage.html' title='Ortlund on Marriage'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-6081305721930350851</id><published>2010-02-13T06:53:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2010-02-14T09:17:39.836-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='teaching'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='examples'/><title type='text'>John MacArthur on How to Serve Christians Who Are Needlessly Restrictive</title><content type='html'>Andy Naselli has posted &lt;a href="http://andynaselli.com/theology/john-macarthur-on-how-to-serve-christians-who-are-needlessly-restrictive?utm_source=feedburner&amp;amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nasellitheology+%28Andy+Naselli%29&amp;amp;utm_content=Google+Reader"&gt;audio and a written summary of John MacArthur’s respons&lt;/a&gt;e to the question:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;How would you approach a congregation trapped in years of legalistic tradition?&lt;/blockquote&gt;MacArthur’s call for patient loving instruction is helpful, providing a good portrait of shepherding.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-6081305721930350851?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6081305721930350851'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6081305721930350851'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/02/john-macarthur-on-how-to-serve.html' title='John MacArthur on How to Serve Christians Who Are Needlessly Restrictive'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-1935937668744349786</id><published>2010-02-12T06:06:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2010-02-12T06:06:00.073-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='apologetics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='books'/><title type='text'>The Making of an Atheist</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S3Tjua_Y1tI/AAAAAAAAAk4/dRXLTFOkuZ4/s1600-h/making+of+an+atheist.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" ct="true" height="200" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S3Tjua_Y1tI/AAAAAAAAAk4/dRXLTFOkuZ4/s200/making+of+an+atheist.jpg" width="131" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;I am pleased to be participating in a blog tour for Jim Speigel’s new book, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Making-Atheist-Immorality-Leads-Unbelief/dp/0802476112?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;The Making of an Atheist&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. Once the tour schedule is completed I will post it. I am not scheduled to post on the book for a while, but the book came yesterday and I have been quite taken with it. First, the subtitle got me: “How Immorality Leads to Unbelief.” Yes! The Bible is clear on this point so I rejoiced in seeing someone willing to state this clearly in a book.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then his introduction makes this point even more clearly. He is writing in response to the New Atheism, but his goal is not to respond to their various arguments (others have done so and these arguments are nothing new). Instead he states:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"I want to show that atheism is not ultimately about arguments and evidence." (10)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Atheism is not at all a consequence of intellectual doubts. Such doubts are mere symptoms of the root cause- moral rebellion. For the atheist, the missing ingredient is not evidence but obedience." (11)&lt;/blockquote&gt;The New Atheism, Spiegel notes, “is little more than moral rebellion cloaked in academic regalia” (16).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course Spiegel is not the first to diagnose this moral cause of unbelief. He stands in an honored line of philosophers and theologians, and it is refreshing to see this truth clearly and boldly stated today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am excited to read the rest of the book and invite you to join me.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-1935937668744349786?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/1935937668744349786/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=1935937668744349786' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1935937668744349786'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1935937668744349786'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/02/making-of-atheist.html' title='The Making of an Atheist'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/S3Tjua_Y1tI/AAAAAAAAAk4/dRXLTFOkuZ4/s72-c/making+of+an+atheist.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-2836764578422489010</id><published>2010-02-11T14:33:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-02-11T14:33:44.879-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='oversight'/><title type='text'>Interview in Towers</title><content type='html'>The &lt;a href="http://www.sbts.edu/resources/files/2010/02/towers_02-08-10web.pdf"&gt;February 8, 2010 edition of Southern Seminary’s Towers Magazine&lt;/a&gt; includes a brief interview with me on the importance of shepherding souls (p. 16). The key concerns which animate this blog come out in the interview.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-2836764578422489010?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/2836764578422489010/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=2836764578422489010' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2836764578422489010'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2836764578422489010'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/02/interview-in-towers.html' title='Interview in Towers'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-2738806532925111833</id><published>2010-02-09T16:04:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2010-02-09T16:08:17.489-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='imagination'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sanctification'/><title type='text'>Imagination the Basis of Ethics, Worldview</title><content type='html'>Below is a recent post from my blog on children's literature, &lt;a href="http://childrenshourbooks.blogspot.com/"&gt;"The Children's Hour."&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; It concerns the role of the imagination in the development of a worldview and in sanctification.&amp;nbsp; This is a significant pastoral issue btoh in the pastor's role of thinking about the training of the children in the church and just in thinking about the way adults think as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;David Mills' article, &lt;a href="http://www.touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=19-10-019-f"&gt;"Enchanting Children: Training Up a Child Requires a Well Formed Imagination"&lt;/a&gt; (from Touchstone) is a great resource for parents. He deals with several issues, primarily the importance of the imagination in shaping life. He argues that the imagination shapes life more than the facts we know and that stoires are the key factor shaping our imaginations. Therefore we ought to be very diligent in guarding what stories our children take in- e.g. limit television and read them good stories. I agree wholeheartedly!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here are some quotes.&lt;br /&gt;On the importance of imagination Mills wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;We tend to rely, I think, too much on knowledge. Even if Johnny has memorized the Baltimore Catechism or the Westminster Confession, or even hundreds of verses of Scripture, if his imagination has been formed by the wider, secular culture, he will respond to temptations as a secularist, not as a Christian.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He will know that fornication is wrong and that intercourse is a gift reserved for marriage, but he will feel that it is a recreational activity to be enjoyed ... When he brings himself to temptation, his feelings are more likely to move him than his thoughts, and of course once he falls, his thoughts will start to change to fit his feelings.&lt;br /&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;Revulsion is a much better protection from the force of the passions than an intellectual understanding by itself. To feel “This is yucky” is not a final protection from sin, but it is better than thinking “This is wrong” but feeling “This is okay.” Lust offers the paradigmatic case (examples come quickly to mind), but this is true of pride, gluttony, envy, and all the rest, even sloth.&lt;/blockquote&gt;He encoourages avoiding the warped stories which cascade from the television and developing a family culture more oriented to reading. He admits this will be difficult and will set you apart as odd in comparison with others.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;But it is worth the effort. Hearing his father or mother read a good story forces the child to hear and begin to imagine stories he would not necessarily read himself, and it gives you another time to talk with him about the deeper things, without being overtly religious in the way that puts off so many children&lt;/blockquote&gt;He continues:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Good stories read seriously and with enjoyment will help form a child’s imagination, and give it a shape it will never entirely lose, no matter what the child does when he grows older. But we would be foolish to rely on stories to do more than stories can. Wise Christian parents will immerse themselves and their children ever more deeply in the life of the Church, whose worship and teaching and charity and fellowship will be the most profound creator of the Christian imagination.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There they should meet Jesus. The world in which the child knows that Jesus is present is a world he will always live by, even in reaction and even when he convinces himself that it is an illusion. The well-formed imagination is a gift that keeps on giving.&lt;br /&gt;... &lt;br /&gt;As St. James pointed out, even the devils believe, in the sense that they know what the reality is (James 2:19). But they cannot imagine that the reality is good. They may know of God the Father, but to them such Fatherhood feels like domination and oppression, because their imaginations are so completely corrupted. They do not hear “Thus says the Lord” as “Here is the antidote for the poison that is killing you,” but as “Down, vermin slaves.” Think of Uncle Andrew in The Magician’s Nephew, who hears Aslan’s kind words only as a threatening growl.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-2738806532925111833?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/2738806532925111833/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=2738806532925111833' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2738806532925111833'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2738806532925111833'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/02/imagination-basis-of-ethics-worldview.html' title='Imagination the Basis of Ethics, Worldview'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-1147462615617118957</id><published>2010-02-07T23:30:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-02-07T23:30:56.885-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='psalms'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='preaching'/><title type='text'>Psalm 19</title><content type='html'>Aaron O’Kelly delivered &lt;a href="http://psalm%2019/"&gt;a wonderful sermon this morning at Cornerstone on Psalm 19&lt;/a&gt;. I was helped by his exposition noting how God speaks through creation and Scripture and that this speech calls for a response. It is well worth a listen.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-1147462615617118957?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/1147462615617118957/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=1147462615617118957' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1147462615617118957'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1147462615617118957'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/02/psalm-19.html' title='Psalm 19'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-5120070185710801347</id><published>2010-02-04T22:17:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2010-02-04T22:18:30.646-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='missions'/><title type='text'>350 Pounds of Books</title><content type='html'>Here is a statement just released from Union University's &lt;a href="http://uu.edu/centers/biblical/"&gt;Ryan Center for Biblical Studies&lt;/a&gt; about a wonderful opportunity:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Ryan Center has an exciting opportunity to partner with &lt;a href="http://www.indigenousoutreach.net/"&gt;Indigenous Outreach International&lt;/a&gt; in their ministry in Ethiopia. IOI, founded and led by Union alum Patrick Beard, has been working in Ethiopia for years. This April they will launch a library/reading room with English language materials. The library will have two primary purposes. First, it will provide resources for area pastors. In this way it is practically a sister institution to the Ryan Center. Secondly, it will have an evangelistic purpose. The public schools in Ethiopia teach English as a required subject and the students are eager for anything to read in English. This library will give them the opportunity to read English Bibles and Bible material. I think this is a wonderful project.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Ryan Center is helping to gather books. We are accepting donations of books to place on the shelves there in Addis Ababa. When Patrick and his team go to launch the library in April they have room in their luggage for 350 pounds of books.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Will you help us collect 350 pounds of useful books to help pastors and to proclaim the gospel in Ethiopia? A wide variety of Christian literature is needed. In addition to a case of Bibles that has already been donated we hope to add Bible study materials, books on theology, Christian living, church life, etc. Many Ethiopians have an excellent ability to read English but since it is not their first language they would benefit most from books which are easy to understand, perhaps on a school age level. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Book donations can be sent/brought to the Ryan Center. We will screen the books before sending them on. Any that are not best suited for the library will be used in other ways here. Also, since the airlines now charge for extra baggage you can help pay this cost, if you are able, by placing a dollar in books you donate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you have any questions about this project feel free to contact Brian Denker (bdenker@uu.edu) or Ray Van Neste (&lt;a href="mailto:rvanneste@uu.edu"&gt;rvanneste@uu.edu&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-5120070185710801347?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/5120070185710801347/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=5120070185710801347' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/5120070185710801347'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/5120070185710801347'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/02/350-pounds-of-books.html' title='350 Pounds of Books'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-8846210141485635313</id><published>2010-02-03T05:31:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-02-03T05:31:00.287-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='authority'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='examples'/><title type='text'>Bold Testimony</title><content type='html'>I appreciated Eric Smith’s recent post, &lt;a href="http://ericcsmith.wordpress.com/2010/01/29/meeting-a-true-bishop/"&gt;“Meeting a True Bishop,”&lt;/a&gt; for the portrayal of proper pastoral boldness in the life of Basil the Great. It brought to mind a section I had just read in &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Baptist-Piety-Testimony-Religion-American/dp/0817352694?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Baptist Piety: The Last Will and Testimony of Obadiah Holmes&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0817352694" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px! important; padding-left: 0px! important; padding-right: 0px! important; padding-top: 0px! important;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Edwin Gaustad, the author, is describing the setting into which Holmes was born. He recounts the martyrdom of John Bradford who had pastored in Stockport, the village nearest Holmes’ birthplace. Five months before he was burned at the stake, Bradford wrote his parishioners from prison with a powerful exhortation including these words:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Oh! forget not how the Lord hath showed himself true, and me his true preacher, by bringing to pass these plagues which at my mouth you oft heard me preach of before they came: specially when I treated of Noah’s flood and when I preached of the 23rd chapter of St. Matthew’s Gospel on St. Stephen’s day, the last time that I was with you … &lt;strong&gt;you have been warned, and warned again, by me in preaching, by me in burning&lt;/strong&gt;.” (p. 6; emphasis added)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This sort of pastoral exhortation and example is powerful. No trite truisms, or bland clichés here.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-8846210141485635313?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/8846210141485635313/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=8846210141485635313' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/8846210141485635313'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/8846210141485635313'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/02/bold-testimony.html' title='Bold Testimony'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-1115628034748422421</id><published>2010-02-02T00:41:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-02-02T00:41:13.114-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='culture'/><title type='text'>The Holiest Day of the Year</title><content type='html'>The flap over the Tim Tebow Super Bowl ad has been interesting and particularly revealing. About a week ago I heard a guy on ESPN complaining about it (his name has escaped me) and I remember thinking, “He is making a religious argument.” He was essentially arguing that the Super Bowl was sacred space that was sullied by such discussions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then, today, I read &lt;a href="http://community.icontact.com/p/shepherdpress/newsletters/shepherding/posts/the-holiest-day-of-the-year-newsletter-85"&gt;the latest Shepherd Press newsletter&lt;/a&gt; which quoted sports writer Greg Doyle as saying this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"And I'm not complaining about the ad because it's anti-abortion and I'm not. I'm complaining about the ad because it's pro-politics. And I'm not. Not on Super Sunday. If you're a sports fan, and I am, that's the holiest day of the year. That's a day for five hours of football pregame shows and four hours of football game and three hours of postgame football analysis. That's a day for football addicts to gorge themselves to the gills on football. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's not a day to discuss abortion. For it, against it, I don't care what you are. On Super Sunday, I don't care what &lt;em&gt;I&lt;/em&gt; am. Feb. 7 is simply not the day to have that discussion." &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wow! Someone will say he is intentionally exaggerating.&amp;nbsp; However, notice that this event is supposed to nullify for the moment any other weighty matters.&amp;nbsp; In other words it is sacred.&amp;nbsp; Revealing.&lt;br /&gt;We are always a religious people.&amp;nbsp; The only question is, "Who are the gods?"&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-1115628034748422421?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/1115628034748422421/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=1115628034748422421' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1115628034748422421'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1115628034748422421'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/02/holiest-day-of-year.html' title='The Holiest Day of the Year'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-7168868308107310999</id><published>2010-02-01T05:52:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2010-02-01T05:52:00.041-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='psalms'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='audio'/><title type='text'>Audio of the Psalms</title><content type='html'>As another way of imbibing the Psalms I recently purchased &lt;a href="http://www.audible.com/adbl/site/products/ProductDetail.jsp?productID=BK_FELL_000011&amp;amp;BV_UseBVCookie=Yes"&gt;The Listener’s Psalms and Proverbs&lt;/a&gt;, narrated by Max McLean from &lt;a href="http://audible.com/"&gt;Audible.com&lt;/a&gt;. McLean reading voice is well known, and he does a good job with the Psalms. The text being read is the NIV. I have long appreciated the rendering of the Psalms in the NIV- I think it is the greatest strength of the NIV.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In Bible reading, I am most accustomed to close, slow reading of small texts. Listening gives me the opportunity to take in larger sections of texts, hearing Psalm after Psalm. It takes time to acclimate to this form of reading. Of course, you can’t pay attention to all the details as you can in slow reading. However, I have noticed broader patterns and themes, and connections across the Psalms. It has been beneficial to just allow the words of the Psalms to wash over my mind on the ride into work, or home, or wherever. I am really enjoying this recording.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-7168868308107310999?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/7168868308107310999/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=7168868308107310999' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/7168868308107310999'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/7168868308107310999'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/02/audio-of-psalms.html' title='Audio of the Psalms'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-8980405073849955258</id><published>2010-01-28T22:14:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-01-28T22:14:29.159-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='worship'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='poetry'/><title type='text'>Indictment on Evangelical Worship</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://theologyinverse.blogspot.com/"&gt;Justin Wainscott&lt;/a&gt;, pastor and poet, has penned a&lt;a href="http://theologyinverse.blogspot.com/2010/01/indictment.html"&gt; powerful poetic challenge&lt;/a&gt; to much of what is typical in evangelical worship today.&amp;nbsp; If you do not already read his blog, I recommend it to you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Indictment on Evangelical Worship&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;M. Justin Wainscott, © 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Set the stage and dim the lights,&lt;br /&gt;Create my mood; abuse my rights.&lt;br /&gt;Out-do all you did last week,&lt;br /&gt;And never let the silence speak.&lt;br /&gt;Entertain me, at all costs,&lt;br /&gt;Blur the lines ‘tween true and false.&lt;br /&gt;Smile and tell me all’s okay,&lt;br /&gt;I’ll believe whate’er you say.&lt;br /&gt;Give me mirrors; give me smoke,&lt;br /&gt;Fill me with clichés and jokes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like an orphan with no story,&lt;br /&gt;Cut me off from all before me.&lt;br /&gt;Hide the pain and fake the smile,&lt;br /&gt;Lamentation’s out of style.&lt;br /&gt;Give me milk and warm the bottle,&lt;br /&gt;Make sure it’s the latest model.&lt;br /&gt;Numb my mind with borrowed tricks,&lt;br /&gt;Feed my soul with Pixi-stix.&lt;br /&gt;Don’t confront what lurks within,&lt;br /&gt;Or else I’ll never come again.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-8980405073849955258?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/8980405073849955258/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=8980405073849955258' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/8980405073849955258'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/8980405073849955258'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/01/indictment-on-evangelical-worship.html' title='Indictment on Evangelical Worship'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-7098581155169040714</id><published>2010-01-27T05:02:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-01-27T05:02:00.792-06:00</updated><title type='text'>When the Church Has No Power</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://wsiltv.com/p/videos.php?videoID=5572&amp;amp;newsID=9332&amp;amp;type=top&amp;amp;vidType=smMov"&gt;Local Church Delivers Sermon From Boxing Ring&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;2 Corinthains 4:1-6:&lt;br /&gt;Therefore, having this ministry by the mercy of God, we do not lose heart. 2 But &lt;strong&gt;we have renounced disgraceful, underhanded ways. We refuse to practice cunning or to tamper with God's word, but by the open statement of the truth we would commend ourselves to everyone's conscience in the sight of God.&lt;/strong&gt; 3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled only to those who are perishing. 4 In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5 For what we proclaim is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, with ourselves as your servants for Jesus' sake. 6 For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;HT: Tim Ellsworth&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-7098581155169040714?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/7098581155169040714/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=7098581155169040714' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/7098581155169040714'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/7098581155169040714'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/01/when-church-has-no-power.html' title='When the Church Has No Power'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-4107370298580239842</id><published>2010-01-26T14:57:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-01-26T14:57:37.066-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='psalms'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='missions'/><title type='text'>The King of Glory</title><content type='html'>This past Sunday I benefitted greatly from &lt;a href="http://cccjackson.org/mp3/Psalm%2024.mp3"&gt;a powerful sermon on Psalm 24&lt;/a&gt; by Tom Fox, former IMB missionary and fellow member at &lt;a href="http://www.cccjackson.org/"&gt;Cornerstone&lt;/a&gt;. Tom particularly emphasized the point from verses 1-2 that God is not a tribal deity- His concerns embrace the whole world. Tom’s applications on world mission were compelling. He mentioned reading that a missionary was among those dug out of the rubble in Haiti and said, “Praise God! Missionaries ought to be dug out of rubble where rubble is to be found.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The whole thing is well worth a listen.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-4107370298580239842?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/4107370298580239842/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=4107370298580239842' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4107370298580239842'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4107370298580239842'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/01/king-of-glory.html' title='The King of Glory'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-2086228971482787603</id><published>2010-01-25T15:14:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-01-25T15:14:27.088-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='vocation'/><title type='text'>Serving Christ</title><content type='html'>An &lt;a href="http://www.canonpress.org/shop/item.asp?itemid=1428"&gt;audio series by Doug Wilson&lt;/a&gt; (available free!) I have been listening to plus a Sunday School lesson by Bob Sparks has been stirring my mind about wonderful truths related to the doctrine of vocation. This wonderful truth that all of life resounds to the glory of God (and ths God is interested in every area) continues to need recovering in our churches. I teach on this doctrine regularly and continue to be blessed by seeing new facets of it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This week what has struck me is that we directly serve Christ in our menial tasks. I am most accustomed to thinking of serving for Christ, serving on behalf of Christ, or for the sake of Christ in my various activities. However, Colossians 3:24, after calling us to do whatever we do for Christ, says “You are serving the Lord Christ.” So when you are grading papers, or dispensing discipline, or folding clothes, sweeping a floor, or cleaning a dirty diaper you are serving Christ. This has a significant impact on how we see our daily routines and duties.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the midst of writing this, I stopped to help one of my sons with a math problem. I ended up discussing this point with him. He responded with, “Mom must be really good at serving Jesus then with all she does.” Yes, son, exactly right!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-2086228971482787603?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/2086228971482787603/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=2086228971482787603' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2086228971482787603'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2086228971482787603'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/01/serving-christ.html' title='Serving Christ'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-1072909556649971961</id><published>2010-01-22T05:44:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-01-22T05:44:00.284-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='worship'/><title type='text'>The Transformative Power of Corporate Worship</title><content type='html'>I have commented several times here about the importance and impact of corporate worship. I am convinced this is a truth we need to recover. Eric Smith has written &lt;a href="http://ericcsmith.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/gods-grace-to-me-through-his-singing-people/"&gt;a moving account&lt;/a&gt; of how God rescued him at a significant crossroads in his life through the corporate singing of a local body. I commend &lt;a href="http://ericcsmith.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/gods-grace-to-me-through-his-singing-people/"&gt;his post&lt;/a&gt; to you.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-1072909556649971961?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/1072909556649971961/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=1072909556649971961' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1072909556649971961'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1072909556649971961'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/01/transformative-power-of-corporate.html' title='The Transformative Power of Corporate Worship'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-3950287196739781145</id><published>2010-01-21T06:36:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-01-21T06:36:00.517-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='humility'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='leadership'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ray Ortlund'/><title type='text'>Ortlund on Pride vs. Christ</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/rayortlund/2010/01/19/i-am-nothing/"&gt;Ray Ortlund’s post “I am … nothing”&lt;/a&gt; is another helpful shot at our man-centered thinking. It is brief, but I encourage you to read it. He cites a statement from an Assyrian king:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“I am royal, I am lordly, I am mighty, I am honored, I am exalted, I am glorified, I am powerful, I am all-powerful, I am brilliant, I am lion-brave, I am manly, I am supreme, I am noble.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He contrasts this with Christ. What hit me was how the Assyrian quote parallels how we are often encouraged to think of leadership and pastoral ministry. May we be Christlike.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-3950287196739781145?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/3950287196739781145/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=3950287196739781145' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/3950287196739781145'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/3950287196739781145'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/01/ortlund-on-pride-vs-christ.html' title='Ortlund on Pride vs. Christ'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-4098546866071761190</id><published>2010-01-20T06:16:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-01-20T06:16:00.328-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pastoral care'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='oversight'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='conferences'/><title type='text'>Conference: “Shepherding God’s Flock”</title><content type='html'>I have the privilege of ministering alongside John Thornbury, Tom Ascol and Joseph Braden February 23-24 at a conference with the theme, &lt;a href="http://www.founders.org/misc/2010fcmwbs.pdf"&gt;“Pastoral Ministry: Shepherding God’s Flock.”&lt;/a&gt; I am particularly excited about the conference theme, which is the theme of this blog. These other men bring years of faithful experience in the pastorate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Schedule is as follows:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Tuesday, February 23&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;12 noon- Registration &lt;br /&gt;1:30 p.m. Joseph Braden -“Our Shepherd God”&lt;br /&gt;3:30 p.m. John Thornbury- “The World’s Greatest J ob”&lt;br /&gt;5:00 p.m. Dinner&lt;br /&gt;6:30 p.m. Tom Ascol- “Gospel Saturated Preaching”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Wednesday, February 24&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;9:00 a.m. Ray Van Neste- "Oversight of Souls: The Heart of Pastoral Ministry”&lt;br /&gt;10:30 a.m. John Thornbury- “Pastoral Pitfalls"&lt;br /&gt;12 noon- Lunch&lt;br /&gt;1:30 p.m. Tom Ascol- “Gospel Shaped Ministry”&lt;br /&gt;3:30 p.m. Ray Van Neste- “Shepherding a Rebellious People”&lt;br /&gt;5:00 p.m. Dinner&lt;br /&gt;6:30 p.m. John Thornbury- “Jesus Christ, the Pastor’s Message”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just for clarity (especially for my own church members) my address, “Shepherding a Rebellious People,” is not autobiographical but is a study of Moses as a pastoral example. :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The conference is the 2010 Southern Baptist Founders’ Conference Midwest and will meet at First Baptist Church, St. Peters, Missouri. Information on registration, housing, etc. can be found &lt;a href="http://www.founders.org/misc/2010fcmwbs.pdf"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-4098546866071761190?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/4098546866071761190/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=4098546866071761190' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4098546866071761190'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4098546866071761190'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/01/conference-shepherding-gods-flock.html' title='Conference: “Shepherding God’s Flock”'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-5988803031937853754</id><published>2010-01-19T12:18:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-01-19T12:18:32.661-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='justification'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='poetry'/><title type='text'>Love Bade Me Welcome</title><content type='html'>Here is &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Herbert"&gt;George Herbert's&lt;/a&gt; wonderful poetic portrayal of justification by faith:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;LOVE&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;LOVE bade me welcome; yet my soul drew back, &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Guilty of dust and sin. &lt;br /&gt;But quick-eyed Love, observing me grow slack &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; From my first entrance in, &lt;br /&gt;Drew nearer to me, sweetly questioning &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; If I lack'd anything. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'A guest,' I answer'd, 'worthy to be here:' &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Love said, 'You shall be he.' &lt;br /&gt;'I, the unkind, ungrateful? Ah, my dear, &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; I cannot look on Thee.' &lt;br /&gt;Love took my hand and smiling did reply, &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 'Who made the eyes but I?' &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'Truth, Lord; but I have marr'd them: let my shame &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Go where it doth deserve.' &lt;br /&gt;'And know you not,' says Love, 'Who bore the blame?' 15&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 'My dear, then I will serve.' &lt;br /&gt;'You must sit down,' says Love, 'and taste my meat.' &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; So I did sit and eat. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- George Herbert. 1593–1632&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-5988803031937853754?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/5988803031937853754/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=5988803031937853754' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/5988803031937853754'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/5988803031937853754'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/01/love-bade-me-welcome.html' title='Love Bade Me Welcome'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-5278582386050350953</id><published>2010-01-18T15:06:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-01-18T15:06:42.451-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='manhood'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='worship'/><title type='text'>Give Us Songs Men Can Sing</title><content type='html'>Here is another interesting quote from Gaines Dobbins’ &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/churchbook-treasury-materials-methods/dp/B0007EGOWM?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;The Churchbook &lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=B0007EGOWM" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; from 1951. The call for music which allows congregational participation, and particularly allows men to participate was timely then. From appearances it was not largely heeded. It is timely now as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Our church songbooks contain some splendid hymns, and also some which kill a congregation’s enthusiasm. From the psychological angle, a good song is one which has harmony and a stirring rhythm which lends itself to untrained male voices, as well as to graduates of conservatories of music.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Recently, I have been visiting various churches for the purpose of observing their music. Just from my listening to the half-hearted singing in many of them, I have felt sorry for the congregation, since many of the men were really trying to participate in the music but couldn’t because it was so difficult or so lacking in a strong, essential rhythm. It would be a great boon if our churches limited themselves to a few dozen of the good old hymns in which people can really participate. For church music should be sung with delight and gusto, so that the very walls almost burst outward with the hearty music. Churches need more men’s music. … &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Effeminate hymns, too often employed today, handicap the clergyman, kill the interest of the congregation ….” (163-64)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-5278582386050350953?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/5278582386050350953/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=5278582386050350953' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/5278582386050350953'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/5278582386050350953'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/01/give-us-songs-men-can-sing.html' title='Give Us Songs Men Can Sing'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-8452119431945082299</id><published>2010-01-16T09:51:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2010-01-16T09:51:00.040-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='family'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='worship'/><title type='text'>Value of Worship at Home</title><content type='html'>In some of my work on Baptist theology and practice I came across this quote from Gaines Dobbins’s, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007EGOWM?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=390957&amp;amp;creativeASIN=B0007EGOWM"&gt;The churchbook: A treasury of materials and methods&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=B0007EGOWM" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt; (Nashville, TN: Broadman, 1951), a standard text in the 1950’s. His point applies just as well today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Children who have learned to worship at home will not find it difficult to worship in the church. Children from worship-less homes cannot be led easily to appreciate the meaning and the value of church worship. A mark of the decadence of our civilization is the decline of family worship. Its revival would be one of the most significant signs of spiritual recovery. The use of one of the popular aids to family devotions, with suggestions for daily Bible readings and prayer, would prove of inestimable value in the promotion of worship in the home, where the best of all training in worship may be received.” (157).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-8452119431945082299?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/8452119431945082299/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=8452119431945082299' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/8452119431945082299'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/8452119431945082299'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/01/value-of-worship-at-home.html' title='Value of Worship at Home'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-1626531397247606504</id><published>2010-01-15T12:56:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-01-15T12:56:25.305-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='books'/><title type='text'>Solid Ground Sale on Baptist Classics</title><content type='html'>My friends at &lt;a href="http://www.solid-ground-books.com/index.asp"&gt;Solid Ground Christian Books&lt;/a&gt; are of&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span id="goog_1263581603142"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="goog_1263581603143"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;fering a sale on 11 Baptist classics with a plan for reading them through the year. I have already taken advantage of the offer and wanted to pass along the news. The titles with descriptions are listed below. You can view the titles and place an order &lt;a href="http://www.solid-ground-books.com/search.asp?searchtext=A+Year+with+Baptist"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;JANUARY - Benjamin Keach The Travels of True Godliness&lt;/strong&gt; This is a work, written in the style of The Pilgrim's Progress, tracing the growth, struggles and temptations faced by 'True Godliness.' It is an enjoyable journey depicting the path of growth in holiness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;FEBRUARY - Andrew Fuller: A Heart for Missions (Pearce Bio)&lt;/strong&gt; One of the best Christian biographies ever written! Samuel Pearce was the Baptist version of Robert Murray McCheyne--a young pastor known for godliness and zeal whose life was brief but impact was profound. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;MARCH - Hercules Collins Devoted to the Service of the Temple&lt;/strong&gt; A mighty man of God, Hercules Collins was a pastor of a very large London Congregation during the 17th century. This little book very helpfully collects some of his wonderful doctrinal and devotional writings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;APRIL - Adoniram Judson On Christian Baptism &lt;/strong&gt;The Congregational Missionary Society was shocked when its first missionary, Adoniram Judson, adopted credobaptist views while on his way to serve in India. In this book, Judson demonstrates the nature of Christian baptism. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;MAY - Southern Baptist Sermons on Sovereignty and Responsibility&lt;/strong&gt; American Baptist history is full of great preachers. Here is a collection of sermons by Southern worthies, expounding vital topics; by Basil Manly, Sr., W.B. Johnson, R.B.C. Howell &amp;amp; Richard Fuller.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;JUNE - John Broadus: Jesus of Nazareth &lt;/strong&gt;Our Lord Jesus is wonderfully presented by another great Southern preacher, John Broadus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;JULY/AUGUST - Benjamin Beddome's Exposition of the Baptist Catechism&lt;/strong&gt; Here is a gem, long out of print, but recently reprinted. Theology is made practical by this pastor from the village of Bourton-on-the-Water in the English Cotswolds. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;SEPTEMBER - Andrew Fuller: The Backslider&lt;/strong&gt; Christians struggle with sin--this is a fact. We need to consider this truth, learn about its dangers, and find the right method of recovery. This book will help.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;OCTOBER - John Bunyan: Come and Welcome to Jesus Christ&lt;/strong&gt; We can't neglect Bunyan! In this book, he calls us to find our full satisfaction in Jesus Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;NOVEMBER - Benjamin Keach: The Marrow of True Justification&lt;/strong&gt; We live in a day when the doctrine of justification by faith alone is under attack. One of our fathers, Benjamin Keach, ably explains this doctrine here. This is the heart of the gospel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;DECEMBER - Charles Spurgeon: Sermons on Men or Women of the Bible&lt;/strong&gt; What a great way to conclude the year! As always, Spurgeon shows us how the men and women of the Bible point us to Jesus Christ.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-1626531397247606504?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/1626531397247606504/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=1626531397247606504' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1626531397247606504'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1626531397247606504'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/01/solid-ground-sale-on-baptist-classics.html' title='Solid Ground Sale on Baptist Classics'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-3651717901281987112</id><published>2010-01-06T23:10:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-01-06T23:10:50.359-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='relationships'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='oversight'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>Think and Act Locally</title><content type='html'>Barry Maxwell has &lt;a href="http://bjmaxwell.com/2010/01/06/local-church-school-of-theology/#comment-651"&gt;a great post on the centrality of the local church in the Christian life&lt;/a&gt;. He particularly critiques the temptation to focus on big names and distant issues rather than focusing on personal relationships with the people with whom you are covenanted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is an excerpt:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In no way minimizing the gift these pastoral and theological giants are to the church, the primary field in which our soul’s graze is our local church. It is to our local brothers and sisters we owe primary attention. It is with them we must work out God’s word and share common convictions and confession. What Piper, MacArthur, Driscoll, Sproul or you-name-him thinks about an issue is important, but not nearly as important as what our local church thinks about it. Unless we’re members of Bethlehem Baptist Church John Piper is not commanded to keep my brothers and sisters from evil, unbelieving hearts that fall away from the living God, nor we him (Heb 3.12). We as members of our local church are commanded to do so for our brothers and sisters with whom we’re covenantally committed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rather than immediately wonder what Piper might think, we would benefit far more by asking what our brothers and sisters might think. If I’m commanded to help my brother hold fast his confession then I’d better know what he confesses! How will Bill work out this week’s text in his marriage? In what way did Bonnie see Christ in the text this week? How do we as a church work through Jesus’ teaching on divorce or Paul’s teaching on communion? Do we insist on independence and autonomous self-study (hyper-priesthood of the believer) or do we want to work out and share convictions within the biblical community?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It matters what “those” guys think in the big picture scheme of things, but not nearly as much what “these” guys in my life think. These guys with whom I share the same cup and loaf. These guys who know my children and cry when we’re hurting. These guys who see me sin and fumble the faith. These guys who know the right ways to encourage and confront me. These guys are the theologians from and about whom I should most want to learn.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Read the &lt;a href="http://bjmaxwell.com/2010/01/06/local-church-school-of-theology/#comment-651"&gt;whole thing&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-3651717901281987112?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/3651717901281987112/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=3651717901281987112' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/3651717901281987112'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/3651717901281987112'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/01/think-and-act-locally.html' title='Think and Act Locally'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-7044880376297904572</id><published>2010-01-05T23:00:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2010-01-05T23:00:07.417-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Machen'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>Our Need of the Church</title><content type='html'>I recently read this quote from Gresham Machen posted by &lt;a href="http://oldlife.org/2010/01/01/some-happy-new-year/"&gt;Darryl Hart&lt;/a&gt;. I found myself saying, “Yes!” and “Thank you Lord for my church!”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;. . . whatever the solution there may be, one thing is clear. There must be somewhere groups of redeemed men and women who can gather together humbly in the name of Christ, to give thanks to Him for his unspeakable gift and to worship the Father through Him. Such groups alone can satisfy the needs of the soul. At the present time, there is one longing of the human heart which is often forgotten — it is the deep, pathetic longing of the Chrsitian for fellowship with his brethren. One hears much, it is true, about Christian union and harmony and co-operation. But the union that is meant is often a union with the world against the Lord, or at best a forced union of machinery and tyrannical committees. How different is the true unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace! Sometimes, it is true, the longing for Christian fellowship is satisfied. There are congregations, even in the present age of conflict, that are really gathered around the table of the crucified Lord; there are pastors that are pastors indeed. But such congregations, in many cities, are difficult to find. Weary with the conflicts of the world, one goes into the Church to seek refreshment for the soul. And what does one find? Alas, too often, one finds only the turmoil of the world. The preacher comes forward, not out of a secret place of meditation and power, not with the authority of God’s Word permeating his message, not with human wisdom pushed far into the background by the glory of the Cross, but with human opinions about the social problems of the hour or easy solutions of the vast problem of sin. Such is the sermon. And then perhaps the service is closed by one of those hymns breathing out the angry passions of 1861, which are to be found in the back part of the hymnals. Thus the warfare of the world has entered even into the house of God. And sad indeed is the heart of the man who has come seeking peace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is there no refuge from strife? Is there no place of refreshing where a man can prepare for the battle of life? Is there no place where two or three can gather in Jesus’ name, to forget for the moment all those things that divide nation from nation and race from race, to forget human pride, to forget the passions of war, to forget the puzzling problems of industrial strife, and to unite in overflowing gratitude at the foot of the Cross? If there be such a place, then that is the house of God and that the gate of heaven. And from under the threshold of that house will go forth a river that will revive the weary world. (&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Christianity-Liberalism-J-Gresham-Machen/dp/0802864996?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Christianity and Liberalism &lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0802864996" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; [1923], 180-81)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-7044880376297904572?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/7044880376297904572/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=7044880376297904572' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/7044880376297904572'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/7044880376297904572'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/01/our-need-of-church.html' title='Our Need of the Church'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-7129736368680567647</id><published>2010-01-04T06:14:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2010-01-04T06:14:00.059-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='books'/><title type='text'>Books in 2009 (Best &amp; Worst)</title><content type='html'>In keeping with the book lists which are common at this time I thought I would list some of my favorite (&amp;amp; least favorite) reads from 2009. This is an idiosyncratic list- just my favorites from what I happened to read. I include here only books that I read straight through (so commentaries and other reference works do not show up here). Also, in the list I keep of books I read each year, I include lecture series as books. I have also indicated where I listened to the audio of a book.&amp;nbsp; Several of these have showed up in posts throughout the year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;History&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Spartacus-War-Barry-Strauss/dp/B002VPEAH6?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;The Spartacus War&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=B002VPEAH6" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, Barry Straus- A great book! Good example of re-telling an ancient story in a compelling way without fudging the data. Historians (and preachers) tend either to tell a compelling story without clarifying what is certain and what is conjecture or to bore us to tears with lists of possibilities. Strauss gives a good example of how we can handle our ancient texts as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Mind-Patriot-Patrick-Henry-World/dp/0813927587?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;The Mind of a Patriot: Patrick Henry and the World of Ideas&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0813927587" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, Kevin Hayes- This was an excellent book! Demolishes T. Jefferson’s picture of Henry as caring little for learning. A very interesting example of the value of learning.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. &lt;a href="http://www.teach12.com/ttcx/coursedesclong2.aspx?cid=4600"&gt;Books that Have Made History: Books that Can Change Your Life&lt;/a&gt;, Rufus Fears (audio)- A course from &lt;a href="http://www.teach12.com/teach12.aspx?ai=16281"&gt;The Teaching Company&lt;/a&gt;. Fears is a great lecturer so this was a fun listen. He had to give brief overviews of significant books (obviously from his own perspective), but it was worthwhile to get more acquainted with these important books. (list of books covered &lt;a href="http://www.teach12.com/ttcx/coursedesclong2.aspx?cid=4600"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, left hand side of page).&amp;nbsp; The key with the Teachign Company is to watch for sales.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/They-Called-Stonewall-Burke-Davis/dp/0517662043?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;They Called Him Stonewall&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0517662043" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, Burke Davis (audio)- Davis is an engaging writer so I have looked for all his books. This is one is well written and a good presentation of Jackson- an inspiring character.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Magnificent-Catastrophe-Tumultuous-Election-Presidential/dp/0743293177?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;A Magnificent Catastrophe: The Tumultuous Election of 1800&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0743293177" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, America’s First Presidential Campaign, Edward Larson (audio)- A really good read listen. This was a very significant point in American history.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Trails-Tales-Tennessee-Harbert-Alexander/dp/0975373706?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Old Trails and Tales of Tennessee &lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0975373706" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Tales-Madison-Historical-Sketches-Tennessee/dp/1577362659?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Tales of Madison: Historical Sketches on Jackson &amp;amp; Madison County&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1577362659" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, both by Harbert Alexander- Great on local history. Light reads with interesting stories of what has gone on in my area over the years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Zachary-Taylor-Presidents-President-1849-1850/dp/0805082379?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Zachary Taylor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0805082379" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, John S. D. Eisenhower- I did not know much about Taylor before and this gave good information on him and his contribution. Well written.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;8. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Raising-Hunley-Remarkable-Confederate-Submarine/dp/0345447727?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Raising the Hunley: The Remarkable History and Recovery of the Lost Confederate Submarine&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0345447727" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, Brian Hicks &amp;amp; Schuyler Kropf (audio)- A fascinating book about this significant submarine. In various ways it seems the book could have been put together better. However, it was well worthwhile to listen to as I learned very much about the Hunley, its history, its place in the development of naval warfare (first successful attack submarine), the process of finding it (about 130 years later!), and the process of raising and examining it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;9. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Endurance-Shackletons-Legendary-Antarctic-Expedition/dp/0375404031?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;The Endurance: Shackleton’s Legendary Antarctic Expedition&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0375404031" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, Caroline Alexander (audio)- This book was slow in places but makes this list because it is such an amazing story of perseverance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;10. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/General-Ike-Reminiscence-John-Eisenhower/dp/074325600X?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;General Ike: A Personal Reminiscence&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=074325600X" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, John S. D. Eisenhower (audio)- Well done! J. Eisenhower is a good writer (see #7) and the reading by Edward Herrmann was well done. I like history from this sort of angle. Interesting examples of the impact of mentors (see &lt;a href="http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/05/summer-reading-history.html"&gt;previous post&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;11. &lt;a href="http://www.teach12.com/ttcx/CourseDescLong2.aspx?cid=805"&gt;A History of Hitler’s Empire, 2d ed.,&lt;/a&gt; Thomas Childers (audio)- This is the first course I listened to from the Teaching Company and I really liked it. Very informative.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;12. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Gilgamesh-New-Rendering-English-Verse/dp/0374523835?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Gilgamesh&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0374523835" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, trans. David Ferry- I had never read this key work before and I found it very interesting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;13. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/George-Washington-Founding-Father-Eminent/dp/B000HWXZE4?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;George Washington: The Founding Father&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=B000HWXZE4" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, Paul Johnson (audio)- Well written, engaged with the subject, sympathetic but not hagiographic. Good on Washington being horrified on how people today think religion should be barred from anything assoc with federal government. Good also on Washington as a thinker as well as man of action- not an intellectual, per se, but thoughtful, articulate, informed etc. Also shows Washington as thinking clearly to his last days (contra charges of some, including Jefferson).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;14. &lt;a href="http://www.teach12.com/ttcx/coursedesclong2.aspx?cid=2250"&gt;The History of the English Language&lt;/a&gt;, Seth Lehrer (audio)- Another Teaching Company course. The first part was the most interesting to me as he dealt with the roots of Indo-European languages.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;15. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/little-confederates-Thomas-Nelson-Page/dp/B0008B64JW?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Two Little Confederates&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=B0008B64JW" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, Thomas Nelson Page- A good read with much humor as you see Virginia in the Civil War through the eyes of two young boys. It gives a good glimpse of what every day life was like at the time, written by one who grew up in this era.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;16. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Life-Robert-Lee-Young-Gentlemen/dp/1594421471?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;The Life of Robert E. Lee for Young Gentlemen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1594421471" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, J. G. deRoulhac Hamilton (originally pub. 1917)- This was a bit of a slow read, but the strength was use of so many primary sources, particularly Lee’s letters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Children&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Full discussions of these are found at my children’s literature blog, so I will just list them here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. &lt;a href="http://childrenshourbooks.blogspot.com/2009/03/bud-me-amazing-true-story.html"&gt;Bud &amp;amp; Me: The True Adventures of the Abernathy Boys&lt;/a&gt;, Alta Abernathy &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. &lt;a href="http://childrenshourbooks.blogspot.com/2009/04/guns-of-lion.html"&gt;Guns of the Lion&lt;/a&gt;, Douglas Bond- historical fiction&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. &lt;a href="http://childrenshourbooks.blogspot.com/2009/07/sword-bearer.html"&gt;The Sword Bearer&lt;/a&gt; (The Archives of Anthropos 1), John White- allegorical fantasy&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. &lt;a href="http://childrenshourbooks.blogspot.com/2009/07/tolkiens-roverandom.html"&gt;Roverandom&lt;/a&gt;, J. R. R. Tolkien &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. &lt;a href="http://childrenshourbooks.blogspot.com/2009/08/work-of-christ-portrayed-by-john-white.html"&gt;Gaal the Conqueror&lt;/a&gt; (The Archives of Anthropos 2), John White- allegorical fantasy&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6. &lt;a href="http://childrenshourbooks.blogspot.com/2009/08/princess-and-curdie.html"&gt;The Princess and Curdie&lt;/a&gt;, George Macdonald&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Theology/Ministry&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Quitting-Church-Faithful-Fleeing-about/dp/0801072271?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Quitting Church&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0801072271" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, Julia Duin- I don’t agree with her everywhere, but this is an informative read on the state of many becoming disenfranchised with church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Franchising-McChurch-Feeding-Obsession-Christianity/dp/1434700046?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Franchising McChurch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1434700046" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, Yeats and White- Great critique of much of what is going on in church today. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/All-Grace-New-Charles-Spurgeon/dp/1441450769?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;All of Grace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1441450769" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, Spurgeon (audio)- Wonderful! Theologically rich and applied so well. Great example of pastoral preaching.&amp;nbsp; I think Spurgeon might be best &lt;a href="http://christianaudio.com/product_info.php?products_id=457"&gt;in audio&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Unexpected-Journey-Discovering-Reformed-Christianity/dp/0875527191?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;An Unexpected Journey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0875527191" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, Robert Godfrey- Really good, refreshing read. Godfrey’s spiritual autobiography.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Pilgrims-Progress-This-World-Which/dp/1433506998?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;The Pilgrim’s Progress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1433506998" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, John Bunyan, edited by C. J. Lovik- This is a good new edition. This book is worth regularly re-reading.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Historical-Christ-Theological-Jesus/dp/0802862624?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;The Historical Christ and the Theological Jesus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0802862624" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, Dale Allison- I did not intend to read this book much less like it! Allison is of course very critical, but it was very interesting seeing how he wrestles with the issues of the faith. There is much to disagree with, but some to appreciate as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7. &lt;a href="http://www.canonpress.org/shop/item.asp?itemid=1351"&gt;The Blenheim Lectures&lt;/a&gt;, Doug Wilson (audio)- Available free at &lt;a href="http://www.canonpress.org/shop/category.asp?catid=177"&gt;Canon Press website&lt;/a&gt;. I particularly liked the personal narrative portion where he discussed shaping a church, learning as you go, seeking to faithfully live out the Scripture in the context of a specific community.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Other&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/They-Popped-Found-Gravy-Dipstick/dp/1596844361?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;They Popped My Hood and Found Gravy on the Dip Stick&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1596844361" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, Todd Starnes- Todd used to work at Union and this is the humorous account his health trouble and weight loss. Reminiscent of Lewis Grizzard.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Edgar-Allan-Poe-Illustrated-Companion/dp/B001FO9NJE?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Edgar Allan Poe: An Illustrated Companion to His Tell-Tale Stories&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=B001FO9NJE" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, Harry Lee Poe- Fascinating read. Hal critiques the typical account of Poe and shows his significant impact on literature and science. Along the way, Hal discusses Poe’s journey to faith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Little-Boy-Down-Road-Stories/dp/1934554340?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;The Little Boy Down the Road: Short Stories &amp;amp; Essays on the Beauty of Family Life&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1934554340" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, Doug Philips – Wonderful, challenging, encouraging book on family.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lastly, two of the most disappointing books I read. Luke Timothy Johnson’s The Apostle Paul (audio) from the Teaching Company was an entirely secular reading. He seemed to take no account of faith. Then, the worst book I read was Bruce Malina’s Timothy: Paul’s Closest Associate. The current results of social scientific criticism were considered absolute fact and the assertions of Scripture were always suspect.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-7129736368680567647?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/7129736368680567647/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=7129736368680567647' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/7129736368680567647'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/7129736368680567647'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/01/books-in-2009-best-worst.html' title='Books in 2009 (Best &amp; Worst)'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-4984879813408174491</id><published>2010-01-01T06:35:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2010-01-01T06:35:00.131-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='family'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='New Year'/><title type='text'>Good New Year Word from Doug Phillips</title><content type='html'>Doug Phillips has &lt;a href="http://www.visionforum.com/onlineemail/vision-forum/2009/12/30_howtoendtheyear/"&gt;a really good exhortation for families concerning reflecting on the past year&lt;/a&gt;. Here is his introduction:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Life moves fast. If we don’t take the time to chronicle the providences of God, we forget them. If we don’t take the time to say thank you to those who have invested in our lives, we actually cultivate a spirit of ingratitude in our own hearts. If we don’t stop and make sure that we have a spirit of forgiveness toward others, we grow bitter, we lose the capacity to move victoriously into the future, and our prayers are hindered.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is a little practice that I was taught and would like to share with you. Each year, during the last week of December, I would encourage you to do the following things.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He lists and discusses three things:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Outline and Chronicle the Many Providences of God&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Say ‘Thank You’ to Those Who Have Invested in Your Life&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. Forgive Those Who Have Wronged You&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good, challenging, realistic ideas. Read &lt;a href="http://www.visionforum.com/onlineemail/vision-forum/2009/12/30_howtoendtheyear/"&gt;the whole thing&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-4984879813408174491?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/4984879813408174491/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=4984879813408174491' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4984879813408174491'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4984879813408174491'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2010/01/good-new-year-word-from-doug-phillips.html' title='Good New Year Word from Doug Phillips'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-4488337908770525916</id><published>2009-12-31T15:19:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2009-12-31T23:01:29.122-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='family'/><title type='text'>Some Favorite Children’s Quotes from 2009</title><content type='html'>Each year at this time I try to reflect over the past year using notes I have kept through the year and discussion with the family. I find it a helpful and meaningful exercise. I also find myself wishing I kept better notes through the year. This year I noticed that I recorded more direct quotes from my children. Here are some favorites from this year which do not require a lot of background to appreciate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Abigail while looking at one of her Bible story books: “Dad, why did God have to die?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Matthew while walking behind geese at Pickwick: “I guess geese never do get potty trained”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Matthew after spotting a snake in the pool at Pickwick: “Dad, there’s some sort of reptile in there.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nathan, in a discussion of the horrors of war, after a younger brother said he would just play dead in a battle: “But what about your honor!”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Abigail singing: “We wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy ending!”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Abigail singing: “Silent Night, Holy is come.” Pretty good theology really.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Abigail with her arms around me, to Tammie, “Mama, this is my man!’ :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-4488337908770525916?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/4488337908770525916/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=4488337908770525916' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4488337908770525916'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4488337908770525916'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/12/some-favorite-childrens-quotes-from.html' title='Some Favorite Children’s Quotes from 2009'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-4859782104508987121</id><published>2009-12-23T07:12:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2009-12-23T07:12:00.115-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christmas'/><title type='text'>Merry Christmas</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SzBVZWZkLCI/AAAAAAAAAkY/6LmAkm7lfKU/s1600-h/Christmas+2009,+children.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" ps="true" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SzBVZWZkLCI/AAAAAAAAAkY/6LmAkm7lfKU/s400/Christmas+2009,+children.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;Merry Christmas&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;from the Van Nestes&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-4859782104508987121?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/4859782104508987121/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=4859782104508987121' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4859782104508987121'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4859782104508987121'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/12/merry-christmas.html' title='Merry Christmas'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SzBVZWZkLCI/AAAAAAAAAkY/6LmAkm7lfKU/s72-c/Christmas+2009,+children.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-1240499109404462722</id><published>2009-12-22T06:04:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2009-12-22T06:04:00.197-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='joy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Calvin'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christmas'/><title type='text'>Calvin on Joy in the Christmas Message</title><content type='html'>If you have read John Calvin but have not read from his sermons, you have missed his best. I have been edified this past week in reading from &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Songs-Nativity-John-Calvin/dp/1848710100?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Songs of the Nativity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1848710100" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, a new translation of selected sermons from Luke 1&amp;amp;2 (only one of which has previously appeared in English). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In commenting on the angel’s announcement of “good news of great joy” in Luke 2 Calvin stated:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Since the angel invites us to rejoice at the coming of Christ, not in any ordinary way but with unbounded delight, let us make the most of the message. What can we say about this joy? If we involve ourselves in worldly pleasures and are wholly absorbed by our own wants, we will never rejoice in the grace of Christ. Let the shepherds instead be or example. Their earthly lot did not change, despite the fact that they had heard the angel’s word and had witnessed the birth of God’s Son. They went back to their flocks exactly as before; they continued to live as poor men, guarding their herds. In terms of the flesh and of this passing world they gained nothing from the privilege which we read about here. For all that, they were full of joy. Theirs is a lead we should follow. For although the gospel might earn us neither wealth nor fame, and although it might not bring us gratification or amusement, nevertheless we should be glad that we are the objects of God’s favour. This is where true blessing and happiness lie, and where real rest is found.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;The joy of the Christmas message is available to all who will believe. This joy is in no way dependent on our circumstances. Praise be to God!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-1240499109404462722?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/1240499109404462722/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=1240499109404462722' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1240499109404462722'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1240499109404462722'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/12/calvin-on-joy-in-christmas-message.html' title='Calvin on Joy in the Christmas Message'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-770260679038700126</id><published>2009-12-21T06:35:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2009-12-21T06:35:00.296-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='communion'/><title type='text'>J B Phillips on Communion and Unity</title><content type='html'>“Holy Communion is intended surely for all those who love our Lord and Saviour in sincerity and truth. This Mystery cannot be ‘cornered’ by any denomination and reserved exclusively for the use of its own members. We are one in Christ, whether we like it or not, and whether we approve of the other denominational tradition or not. Unless we are prepared to say that those nurtured in a different branch of the Christian Church are not Christians at all, I, for one, cannot see by what right I exclude my fellow Christian from Communion with our common Lord.” (60)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“For what it is worth, I would make a strong plea that we do not exclude from the Lord’s Table in our Church those who are undoubtedly sincere Christians.” (61)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;J.B. Phillips, &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Appointment-God-Some-thoughts-Communion/dp/B0007DL8II?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Appointment with God;: Some thoughts on Holy Communion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=B0007DL8II" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-770260679038700126?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/770260679038700126/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=770260679038700126' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/770260679038700126'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/770260679038700126'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/12/j-b-phillips-on-communion-and-unity.html' title='J B Phillips on Communion and Unity'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-4770100412350373438</id><published>2009-12-20T06:25:00.005-06:00</published><updated>2009-12-20T06:25:00.231-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='communion'/><title type='text'>J B Phillips on the Value of Communion</title><content type='html'>"We really show irreverence, we really dishonor Christ, when we refuse to believe that His Life, with its transforming and activating powers, can be resident in such people as ourselves.” (32)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“It is obvious that the Christian life can be maintained without Holy Communion at all. Indeed, it is so maintained, for example, both by the Quakers and by the Salvation Army. But it is surely not the normal, surely not the ‘Catholic’ way (in its proper sense), in which the Spirit has led the Church through the centuries. A man may lead a happy and useful life with only one lung, or with part of his internal organs removed by surgery, but that is not the norm. Obviously it is possible for God to give His grace in a dozen different ways, but it is difficult to see why Christ instituted this particular means of spiritual nutrition unless it had a particular point and purpose for the vast army of His future followers. Indeed, it is true to say from experience that Christians, unless they are prejudiced, or conditioned by their upbringing, are drawn intuitively toward Holy Communion. Their own natural spiritual hunger draws them instinctively toward the holy provision of the Lord’s Table.” (33-34)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“…we can accept the cordial of God’s free forgiveness and reinstatement. There is no question of our deserving such generous love, but it is a fact of life of which we can be quite sure.” (57)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;J.B. Phillips, &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Appointment-God-Some-thoughts-Communion/dp/B0007DL8II?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Appointment with God: Some thoughts on Holy Communion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=widgetsamazon-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=B0007DL8II" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-4770100412350373438?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/4770100412350373438/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=4770100412350373438' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4770100412350373438'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4770100412350373438'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/12/j-b-phillips-on-value-of-communion.html' title='J B Phillips on the Value of Communion'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-3460866831807476527</id><published>2009-12-19T06:21:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2009-12-19T06:21:00.182-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='communion'/><title type='text'>J B Phillips on Awareness of Others in Communion</title><content type='html'>I have discussed at various other times the importance of the corporate element of our worship. This is also true in communion, as Phillips notes in these quotes:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Christians of every kind need to beware of pietistic individualism, and this no less true at the focal point of worship than at any other place in the Christian life.” (26-27)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Holy Communion is surely always falling short of its true purpose if it fails to produce some sense of solidarity with our fellow worshippers.” (28)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Part of the point according to 1 Cor 11 is awareness of our fellow members of the congregation. We often miss this in our individualistic practice of shutting everyone else while we individually commune with God. This is why at our church we have gone to keeping our eyes open and drawing attention to the fact that we partake of these elements together, as one body reaffirming faith in this one Savior who has made us all part of His one Body.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;J.B. Phillips, &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Appointment-God-Some-thoughts-Communion/dp/B0007DL8II?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Appointment With God: Some Thoughts on Holy Communion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=B0007DL8II" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-3460866831807476527?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/3460866831807476527/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=3460866831807476527' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/3460866831807476527'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/3460866831807476527'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/12/j-b-phillips-on-awareness-of-others-in.html' title='J B Phillips on Awareness of Others in Communion'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-2821268425074614190</id><published>2009-12-18T06:10:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2009-12-18T06:10:00.814-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='communion'/><title type='text'>J B Phillips on Lack of Appreciation of Communion</title><content type='html'>Following on from &lt;a href="http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/12/communion-imagination.html"&gt;yesterday’s post&lt;/a&gt;, Phillips in these quotes diagnosed (50+ years ago) a problem which is common in evangelical churches. I cite these quotes as a part of the call to reconsider our practice of communion so that we might appreciate anew the value of this practice which Christ Himself commanded, and which He apparently thought we would benefit from.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“But, if the truth were told … there is a good proportion of people to whom Communion is very little more than a sacred duty. . . . They continue to be Communicants out of a sense of duty or loyalty, but somehow the glowing, precious secret which is plainly experienced by others seems to elude them.” (5)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“But we cannot make any progress spiritually without the most uncompromising honesty. We could save ourselves and the Church at large a great deal of unhappiness, unreality, and inward dissatisfaction if we dared to use the clean cold sword of truth. If Communion is in fact largely a disappointment to us, let us have the courage to admit to ourselves and to God that this is so.” (6)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“The early Christians found their deepest fellowship with their unseen Lord as well as with one another in what began as a very simple rite.” (11)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“To put it quite bluntly, evangelical Protestants have been so busy saying what the Holy Communion is not that they have left themselves sometimes with a sterile bundle of denials, and very little positive doctrine.” (12)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;J.B. Phillips, &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Appointment-God-Some-thoughts-Communion/dp/B0007DL8II?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Appointment With God: Some Thoughts on Holy Communion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=B0007DL8II" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-2821268425074614190?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/2821268425074614190/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=2821268425074614190' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2821268425074614190'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2821268425074614190'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/12/j-b-phillips-on-lack-of-appreciation-of.html' title='J B Phillips on Lack of Appreciation of Communion'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-7327490399161370862</id><published>2009-12-17T14:59:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2009-12-17T15:01:09.292-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='imagination'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='communion'/><title type='text'>Communion &amp; Imagination</title><content type='html'>Yesterday I read J. B. Phillips little book from 1956, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Appointment-God-Some-thoughts-Communion/dp/B0007DL8II?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;link_code=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969" target="_blank"&gt;Appointment With God: Some Thoughts on Holy Communion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=btl&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=B0007DL8II" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;. Phillips is best known for his interpretive translation of the New Testament. He was an Anglican priest so I knew I would have some differences with him on this topic, but I have appreciated his writing ability so I was intrigued by the book when I saw it. In the end I was not disappointed. I plan t post a few quotes over the next few days.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this post, I will just draw attention to an introductory comment Phillips made. He mentioned that he wrote the book “to show how, for Christians who are prepared to use their minds and imaginations, it [communion] can deepen and enrich their spiritual lives” (vii). This comment grabbed me. Surely this exposes one reason why so many today fail to see the value or to appreciate the wonder of communion. We are not training people in the biblical value of and use of the imagination. You can’t read the imagery of the Psalms, the prophets, the parables of Jesus or Revelation and miss the use of words to stir the imagination. Too many evangelicals are scared of the imagination, imagining it to be in opposition to historical fact. But there need be no contradiction here. We have abandoned one important aspect of the mind and are the poorer for it. We desperately need to reclaim a sanctified imagination.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(&lt;a href="http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2007/07/preaching-and-imagination.html"&gt;previous post on preaching &amp;amp; imagination&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-7327490399161370862?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/7327490399161370862/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=7327490399161370862' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/7327490399161370862'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/7327490399161370862'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/12/communion-imagination.html' title='Communion &amp; Imagination'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-117440031683254471</id><published>2009-12-16T15:37:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2009-12-16T15:39:05.777-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='preaching'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='books'/><title type='text'>2009 Bibles and Bible Reference Survey Article</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;This year’s article surveying new study Bibles and Bible reference works for &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.preaching.com/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:#800080;"&gt;Preaching Magazine&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt; has just gone &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.preaching.com/printerfriendly/11617002"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:#800080;"&gt;online&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;As with previous articles I have focused on study Bibles and commentaries though I also comment on surveys, dictionaries, and some works of biblical theology, biblical languages and church history.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;By necessity the comments are brief.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I hope that the article will be helpful to pastors and others teaching the Bible as they consider which of the recent books might be helpful to them in their ministries.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-117440031683254471?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/117440031683254471/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=117440031683254471' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/117440031683254471'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/117440031683254471'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/12/2009-bibles-and-bible-reference-survey.html' title='2009 Bibles and Bible Reference Survey Article'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-2468430541856322934</id><published>2009-12-15T12:27:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2009-12-15T12:37:59.904-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='forgiveness'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Luther'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='gospel'/><title type='text'>The Forgiveness of Sins Covers It All</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial', 'sans-serif'; mso-fareast-: AR-SAfont-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:11;color:black;"   &gt;&lt;?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial', 'sans-serif'; mso-fareast-: AR-SAfont-family:'Times New Roman';color:black;"  &gt;A few days ago I saw this quote on &lt;a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/rayortlund/2009/12/11/the-forgiveness-of-sins-covers-it-all/"&gt;Ray Ortlund’s blog&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;It has given me so much enjoyment and blessing that I wanted to pass it along. This is classic Luther!&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial', 'sans-serif'; mso-fareast-: AR-SAfont-family:'Times New Roman';color:black;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial', 'sans-serif'; mso-fareast-: AR-SAfont-family:'Times New Roman';color:black;"  &gt;It is the supreme art of the devil that he can make the law out of the gospel. If I can hold on to the distinction between law and gospel, I can say to him any and every time that he should kiss my backside. Even if I sinned I would say, ‘Should I deny the gospeI on this account?’ . . . Once I debate about what I have done and left undone, I am finished. But if I reply on the basis of the gospel, ‘The forgiveness of sins covers it all,’ I have won.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial', 'sans-serif'; mso-fareast-: AR-SAfont-family:'Times New Roman';color:black;"  &gt;Martin Luther, quoted in Reinhard Slenczka, “Luther’s Care of Souls for Our Times,” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial', 'sans-serif'; mso-fareast-: AR-SAfont-family:'Times New Roman';color:black;"  &gt;Concordia Theological Quarterly&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial', 'sans-serif'; mso-fareast-: AR-SAfont-family:'Times New Roman';color:black;"  &gt; 67 (2003): 42.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-2468430541856322934?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/2468430541856322934/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=2468430541856322934' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2468430541856322934'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2468430541856322934'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/12/forgiveness-of-sins-covers-it-all.html' title='The Forgiveness of Sins Covers It All'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-6340443336732138281</id><published>2009-12-14T10:55:00.004-06:00</published><updated>2009-12-14T11:06:53.110-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='mothers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='family'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='children'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fathers'/><title type='text'>Value of Family</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SyZwNl1NzMI/AAAAAAAAAkA/X7Gf9hyM1IU/s1600-h/little+boy+down+road.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5415138980755524802" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 161px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 200px" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SyZwNl1NzMI/AAAAAAAAAkA/X7Gf9hyM1IU/s200/little+boy+down+road.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;“When the Bible paints the picture of the happiest men on Earth with the most far-reaching impact on history, it does so in the context of family life, meal time, and the blessing of children (Psalm 127, 128). . . . Sometimes the most important thing happening in the world is the couple deciding to adopt a baby, or the child honoring his mother, or the daughter repenting to her father. Sometimes it is a little boy who waits patiently down the road for his daddy to return form work so that he can simply hold the hand of the most important man in his life. These are the moments that really matter – the ones that will count in eternity. They are the everyday victories of the Christian life that will one day fill the heart of the old man with joy as he looks back on a life well spent. That is why, when the world has passed away, and the trends of this present culture are long since forgotten, those simple acts of love, done in the name of Christ and for His sake by a mother to her child, or a brother for his sister, will retain value with the saints in eternity.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Douglas W. Phillips, &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1934554340?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=390957&amp;amp;creativeASIN=1934554340"&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Little Boy Down the Road: Short Stories &amp;amp; Essays on the Beauty of Family Life&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;img style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-TOP: medium none; MARGIN: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none" height="1" alt="" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1934554340" width="1" border="0" /&gt; &lt;/em&gt;(xxi-xxii)&lt;br /&gt;.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-6340443336732138281?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/6340443336732138281/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=6340443336732138281' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6340443336732138281'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6340443336732138281'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/12/value-of-family.html' title='Value of Family'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SyZwNl1NzMI/AAAAAAAAAkA/X7Gf9hyM1IU/s72-c/little+boy+down+road.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-8115572123486573286</id><published>2009-12-04T06:17:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2009-12-04T06:17:00.080-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='psalms'/><title type='text'>Value of the Psalms</title><content type='html'>Richard Hooker on the Psalms:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“The choice and flower of all things profitable in other books the Psalms do both more briefly contain, and more movingly also express, by reason of that poetical form wherewith they are written . . . What is there necessary for man to know which the Psalms are not able to teach?  They are to beginners an easy and familiar introduction, a mighty augmentation of all virtue and knowledge in such as are entered before, a strong confirmation to the most perfect among others.  Heroical magnanimity, exquisite justice, grace moderation, exact wisdom, repentance unfeigned, unwearied patience, the mysteries of God, the sufferings of Christ, the terrors of wrath, the comforts of grace, the works of Providence over this world, and the promised joys of that world which is to come, all good necessarily to be either known or done or had, this one celestial fountain yieldeth.  Let there be any grief or disease incident into the soul of man, any wound or sickness named, for which there is not in this treasure-house a present comfortable remedy at all times ready to be&lt;br /&gt;found.”&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(cited in A. F. Kirkpatrick, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0217379451?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0217379451"&gt;The Book of Psalms&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0217379451" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /&gt;. Reprint. Grand Rapids, MI: Baker, 1982; viii)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-8115572123486573286?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/8115572123486573286/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=8115572123486573286' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/8115572123486573286'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/8115572123486573286'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/12/value-of-psalms.html' title='Value of the Psalms'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-6160132704333388179</id><published>2009-12-03T00:46:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2009-12-03T00:49:41.707-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>The Value of the Rural Church</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SxdffEBoW4I/AAAAAAAAAj4/A8vyRoDmZcs/s1600-h/rural+church.gif"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5410898464570104706" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 177px" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SxdffEBoW4I/AAAAAAAAAj4/A8vyRoDmZcs/s200/rural+church.gif" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;For a few years now I have been wanting to write an essay on the value of rural churches and the need to appreciate them- for pastors to see them as valuable and not simply stepping stones to something really important.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I was delighted to see &lt;a href="http://rcpc.com/blog/view.jsp?Blog_param=78"&gt;Tim Keller’s recent post on this very topic&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://ericcsmith.wordpress.com/2009/12/02/tim-keller-ministry-in-a-rural-church/"&gt;Eric Smith’s reflections&lt;/a&gt; of Keller’s comments. I encourage you to read both (neither are very long).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-6160132704333388179?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/6160132704333388179/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=6160132704333388179' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6160132704333388179'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6160132704333388179'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/12/value-of-rural-church.html' title='The Value of the Rural Church'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SxdffEBoW4I/AAAAAAAAAj4/A8vyRoDmZcs/s72-c/rural+church.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-3869303388784705574</id><published>2009-12-02T06:25:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2009-12-02T06:25:00.654-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bunyan'/><title type='text'>Beware Presumption</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SxXgN-iteGI/AAAAAAAAAjw/aRpMWa1tJLc/s1600-h/pilgrims+progress.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5410477058087024738" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 112px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 160px" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SxXgN-iteGI/AAAAAAAAAjw/aRpMWa1tJLc/s200/pilgrims+progress.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Bunyan’s Pilgrim’s Progress is truly a treasure trove of practical and pastoral wisdom for the Christian life. I am reading it again to my boys, this time in the &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1433506998?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=390957&amp;amp;creativeASIN=1433506998"&gt;new edition edited by C. J. Lovik&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-TOP: medium none; MARGIN: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none" height="1" alt="" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1433506998" width="1" border="0" /&gt;. Tonight we read the following portion which is really a good reminder:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“But as for footmen like you and me, let us never desire to meet with the enemy or presume ourselves able to do better when we hear about the struggles of others. When we hear of others who have been sorely tested, let’s not be deluded by thoughts of our own manhood, for those who do so are often the ones who have the worst time of it when they are tested.” (p. 182-83)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-3869303388784705574?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/3869303388784705574/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=3869303388784705574' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/3869303388784705574'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/3869303388784705574'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/12/beware-presumption.html' title='Beware Presumption'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SxXgN-iteGI/AAAAAAAAAjw/aRpMWa1tJLc/s72-c/pilgrims+progress.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-6215596217656637454</id><published>2009-12-01T06:00:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2009-12-01T06:00:09.464-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='books'/><title type='text'>ChristianAudio Download Sale</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.christianaudio.com/"&gt;Christianaudio&lt;/a&gt; is having &lt;a href="http://christianaudio.com/advanced_search_result.php?all=1"&gt;an amazing sale that lasts through December 4&lt;/a&gt;.  Most of their digital downloads are on sale for $7.49 including works from Charles Dickens, Wendell Berry, Eugene Peterson, John Piper (a number of Piper’s are free), and others.  This is a great opportunity to get some good audio books at great prices.  I have purchased downloads from them before and have been pleased.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-6215596217656637454?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/6215596217656637454/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=6215596217656637454' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6215596217656637454'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6215596217656637454'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/12/christianaudio-download-sale.html' title='ChristianAudio Download Sale'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-6357696408595832310</id><published>2009-11-30T06:43:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2009-11-30T06:43:00.154-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='psalms'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='joy'/><title type='text'>God Expects Joy in His Service</title><content type='html'>The Bible clearly speaks to the pain of this life and encourages us to be honest about it as well.  This point is often lost on prosperity preachers and the “happy-clappy” approach to worship.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At times, though, I see the error in the opposite direction- the idea that those who are serious about their faith can be seen by their grave expression.  Such people are never too carried away.  When asked how they are doing they will immediately mention their struggle with sin, the reality of our fallen condition etc. and than say something like “What else can we expect in a fallen world.”  While there is truth here, it is really the opposite extreme of the prosperity gospel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God knows we suffer and told us to expect it.  God does take sin seriously and does not want us to take it lightly.  At the same time, the scriptures clearly teach us that because God has loved us and resolved our sin problem we should be joyful!  I find that I too easily get caught up in the struggles and fail to ponder the reality of all that God has done for me, fail to revel in the assurances of the gospel.  And revel I should and would if I think clearly about the amazing truth declared to me in the gospel!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As Matthew Henry wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“By holy joy we do really serve God; it is an honour to him to rejoice in him; and we ought to serve him with holy joy. Gospel-worshippers should be joyful worshippers” (on Psalm 100)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;The Psalms have brought this all to my mind.  The very Psalms which teach us to take our complaints to God also command us to approach God with joy.&lt;br /&gt;Psalm 100:2- “Serve the Lord with &lt;em&gt;gladness&lt;/em&gt;”&lt;br /&gt;William Kethe’s famous versification of Psalm 100 rendered this “Him serve with mirth.”  Later editors changed this to “Him serve with fear.”  That is a proper rendering of Psalm 2 but not of Psalm 100! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Psalm 27:6 – “I will offer in his tent sacrifices with &lt;em&gt;shouts of joy&lt;/em&gt;.” &lt;br /&gt;One versification renders this:&lt;br /&gt;“Within his tent with glee&lt;br /&gt;I’ll offer sacrifice.”&lt;br /&gt;Such commands abound in the Psalter.  God declares that we should approach him with joy because He has been so good to us.  The command in Psalm 27 comes in the midst of the psalmist crying out to God because of enemies who are after him.  This is no escapist imagination.  Rather, it is the real assurance which births joy even in the midst of trouble. “If God be for me who can be against me!”&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-6357696408595832310?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/6357696408595832310/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=6357696408595832310' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6357696408595832310'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6357696408595832310'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/11/god-expects-joy-in-his-service.html' title='God Expects Joy in His Service'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-4468861350759568517</id><published>2009-11-28T06:57:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2009-11-28T06:57:00.075-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='psalms'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='missions'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='worship'/><title type='text'>God Deserving of Universal Praise</title><content type='html'>"Make a joyful noise to the Lord, all the earth!" (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=psalm+100&amp;amp;go=Go"&gt;Psalm 100&lt;/a&gt;:1)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“What the singers undertake has to do with the world, and should their horizon be at all foreshortened, the happening would immediately decay into something else.  Against all practicality or human expectation of being heard, they summon mankind. … nor do they measure their words against their only resources and possibilities.  No, they look to him who is he focus of what they undertake and shout “all the earth” because no lesser assembly can be contemplated where he is concerned.  What they gather to do must always be set in the midst of the world, or it is surrender of truth ad future from the start.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;-James L. Mays, “Worship, World, and Power: An Interpretation of Psalm 100”, &lt;em&gt;Interpretation&lt;/em&gt; 23.3 (July 1969): 320.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-4468861350759568517?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/4468861350759568517/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=4468861350759568517' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4468861350759568517'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4468861350759568517'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/11/god-deserving-of-universal-praise.html' title='God Deserving of Universal Praise'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-5381399226268840509</id><published>2009-11-27T11:16:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2009-11-27T11:16:00.927-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='preaching'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bunyan'/><title type='text'>The Purpose of Preaching</title><content type='html'>One danger for preachers who understand the value of doctrine, is that we can lose touch with the practical focus of preaching. We do not want to be like many whose preaching is shallow and lacking in any biblical substance. This desire is correct, but it can then be easy to fall off the other side, turning preaching into mere lectures with our aim becoming simply the transfer of data. It is good- indeed vital- for our people to know doctrine, but not abstract doctrine for doctrine’s sake. We need to know truth &lt;em&gt;so that we might live in such a way as to please God&lt;/em&gt;. We preach not simply to create skillful hearers of the word, or even experts in talking about the word, but to produce people who live according to the word because they deeply love God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This truth came back to mind recently as I read &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1433506998?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=390957&amp;amp;creativeASIN=1433506998"&gt;Pilgrim's Progress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-TOP: medium none; MARGIN: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none" height="1" alt="" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1433506998" width="1" border="0" /&gt; to my children one night. As Evangelist comes back to Christian and Faithful before they come to Vanity Fair, Bunyan notes what the two Pilgrim’s hope to hear from Evangelist, that is, why they want to hear a sermon:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“They hoped to hear from Evangelist things that would help them resist and overcome trials they were likely to encounter as they continued their journey.”*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Brothers, let us make sure that as we stand before the people of God we teach them from the mighty truths of Scripture how they can fight temptation and endure to the glory of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;* Quote from the &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1433506998?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=390957&amp;amp;creativeASIN=1433506998"&gt;new edition edited by C. J. Lovik&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-TOP: medium none; MARGIN: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none" height="1" alt="" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1433506998" width="1" border="0" /&gt;, p. 126&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-5381399226268840509?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/5381399226268840509/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=5381399226268840509' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/5381399226268840509'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/5381399226268840509'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/11/purpose-of-preaching.html' title='The Purpose of Preaching'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-1180504955967533052</id><published>2009-11-25T07:34:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2009-11-25T07:34:00.054-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='evangelism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='catholicism'/><title type='text'>Holy Ground Book Tour</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SwymQz8fF2I/AAAAAAAAAjo/9jsKNNTP84A/s1600/Holy-Ground-Cover.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 130px; FLOAT: left; HEIGHT: 200px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5407880060317144930" border="0" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SwymQz8fF2I/AAAAAAAAAjo/9jsKNNTP84A/s200/Holy-Ground-Cover.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;As I &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/11/walking-with-jesus-as-former-catholic.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;color:#0000ff;"&gt;mentioned previously&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;, I am participating in a blog tour for the book, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0310292328?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=390957&amp;amp;creativeASIN=0310292328"&gt;Holy Ground: Walking with Jesus as a Former Catholic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN: 0px; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none" border="0" alt="" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0310292328" width="1" height="1" /&gt;, written by Chris Castaldo, one of the pastors at College Church in Wheaton, IL.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Chris is well prepared to write such a book since he grew up Catholic but is now an evangelical.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;(Some of the questions I asked Chris were similar to the questions of others so there is some overlap with some other stops on the blog tour).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;Here are four questions with Chris’ answers:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;1.)&lt;i&gt; Why did you write &lt;/i&gt;Holy Ground&lt;i&gt;?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;&lt;?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;My former pastor and colleague, Kent Hughes, deserves credit for planting the idea to write &lt;i&gt;Holy Ground&lt;/i&gt;. During my second year of ministry at College Church, I counseled several couples—one member a Catholic and the other a Protestant—helping them see that, despite doctrinal differences, their marriages could remain intact. With these folks in mind I eventually offered a Wednesday night class on the topic entitled “Perspective on Catholicism,” intended to bring a more biblically informed balance. With John 1:14 as our model, the class sought to emphasize the need to follow after Jesus’ example of “grace and truth.” The material eventually became a manuscript and, thanks to Zondervan, &lt;i&gt;Holy Ground&lt;/i&gt; was born. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;2.) &lt;i&gt;What are the distinct features of &lt;/i&gt;Holy Ground&lt;i&gt; that separate it from other such books?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;Among evangelical books that address Catholicism, &lt;i&gt;Holy Ground&lt;/i&gt; has a couple of features that make it unique. First, many such books convey an unkind attitude. The doctrinal emphasis of these works is commendable, but the irritable tone rings hollow and fails to exhibit the loving character of Jesus. It's the tone that my seminary professor warned against when he said, "Don't preach and write as though you have just swallowed embalming fluid. As Christ imparts redemptive life, so should his followers." This life is communicated in the content of God's message and also in its manner of presentation. Therefore, I seek to express genuine courtesy toward Catholics, even in disagreement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, most books on Roman Catholicism and Evangelicalism emphasize doctrinal tenets without exploring the practical dimensions of personal faith. Important as it is to understand doctrine, the reality is there's often a vast difference between the content of catechisms and the beliefs of folks who fill our pews. &lt;i&gt;Holy Ground&lt;/i&gt; is concerned with understanding the common ideas and experiences of real-life people.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;3.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt; &lt;b&gt;What do you miss most from the Roman Catholic tradition?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;Great question! No one has asked me this yet. Of all the elements of which Catholic tradition consists, I’d say the one I miss most is the reverent ethos of the Mass. Even here at College Church where we work hard to emphasize transcendent realities, it’s rare that we focus on the cross with quite the same intensity that I remember from my boyhood parish. Granted, there are aspects of the Mass that are doctrinally and existentially troubling, seriously so; but the atmosphere of solemnity, organically woven into the overall worship service (and not simply tacked on to an otherwise regular sermon), unafraid of protracted moments of quietness, perhaps kneeling, concentrating on the crucified Savior with all our God-given senses, is something I’d like to see us more carefully incorporate into our services. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;4.) What can a Roman Catholic learn from an evangelical?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;I don’t mean to sound cheeky, but I think most of all we can help Catholics to understand the Gospel—the message of divine grace in Jesus’ death and resurrection accessed through faith apart from one’s meritorious behavior. This may sound terribly condescending and perhaps even anti-Catholic, but, to a large extent, it is the reality of the situation. Catholic philosopher Peter Kreeft describes the problem: &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;“There are still many who do not know the data, the gospel. Most of my Catholic students at Boston College have never heard it. They do not even know how to get to heaven. When I ask them what they would say to God if they died tonight and God asked them why he should take them into heaven, nine out of ten do not even mention Jesus Christ. Most of them say they have been good or kind or sincere or did their best. So I seriously doubt God will undo the Reformation until he sees to it that Luther’s reminder of Paul’s gospel has been heard throughout the church” (Peter Kreeft. “Ecumenical Jihad.” &lt;i&gt;Reclaiming The Great Tradition&lt;/i&gt;. Ed. James S. Cutsinger. [Downers Grove: InterVarsity, 1997]. 27).&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibrifont-family:Calibri;" &gt;This is the concern of &lt;i&gt;Holy Ground&lt;/i&gt;—that the grace of God in salvation remains central. When talking with Catholics, there are myriads of potential rabbit trails. We may enter into a conversation to talk about how Jesus provides life with meaning and suddenly find ourselves enmeshed in a debate about the apocrypha or &lt;i&gt;Humanae Vitae.&lt;/i&gt; Sometimes it’s right to broach these subjects, but too often we do so at the expense of the gospel. This is tragic. What does it profit a person if he explicates a host of theological conundrums without focusing attention upon the death and resurrection of Jesus? In all of our discussion with Catholics we must consider, celebrate, and bear witness to the splendor and majesty of our Savior, the one who died, rose, and now lives.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Californian FB'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:12;color:black;"   &gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-1180504955967533052?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/1180504955967533052/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=1180504955967533052' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1180504955967533052'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/1180504955967533052'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/11/holy-ground-book-tour.html' title='Holy Ground Book Tour'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SwymQz8fF2I/AAAAAAAAAjo/9jsKNNTP84A/s72-c/Holy-Ground-Cover.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-4942258655674058965</id><published>2009-11-24T14:56:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2009-11-24T15:00:52.538-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='psalms'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='books'/><title type='text'>The Church’s Esteem of the Psalter</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SwxJewNaTBI/AAAAAAAAAjg/_x4E2So9ek0/s1600/psalms+in+human+life.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 104px; FLOAT: left; HEIGHT: 160px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5407778045251177490" border="0" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SwxJewNaTBI/AAAAAAAAAjg/_x4E2So9ek0/s200/psalms+in+human+life.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;I continue to enjoy greatly Rowland Prothero’s book, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1599251930?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=390957&amp;amp;creativeASIN=1599251930"&gt;The Psalms In Human Life&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN: 0px; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none" border="0" alt="" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1599251930" width="1" height="1" /&gt;, where he the use of the psalms through the history of the church.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Here are a couple of quotes:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;“From the treasure-house of the Psalter, whether in the ancient Latin version, or in vernacular prose, or in rough rhyme wedded to simple music, Roman Catholics and Protestants alike drew inspiration.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;The Psalms clave to the memories, and rooted themselves in the hearts of the people.” (p. 114)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Quoting Casaubon, a Huguenot scholar:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;“This is the peculiarity of the Psalter, that everyone can use its words as if they were completely and individually his own.” 142&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-4942258655674058965?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/4942258655674058965/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=4942258655674058965' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4942258655674058965'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4942258655674058965'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/11/churchs-esteem-of-psalter.html' title='The Church’s Esteem of the Psalter'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SwxJewNaTBI/AAAAAAAAAjg/_x4E2So9ek0/s72-c/psalms+in+human+life.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-8181547828661840665</id><published>2009-11-19T14:39:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2009-11-19T14:41:40.861-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='psalms'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='worship'/><title type='text'>Praise Reorienting Life</title><content type='html'>“Make a joyful noise to the Lord, all the earth!&lt;br /&gt; Serve the Lord with gladness!&lt;br /&gt;Come into his presence with singing!” ( &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=psalm+100"&gt;Psalm 100:1-2&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“This doxology needs to be understood not only as a literary &lt;em&gt;assertion of trustful simplicity&lt;/em&gt; (which it is) but also as an action which &lt;em&gt;reorients life&lt;/em&gt;.  When the community praises, it submits and reorders life.  It is not only a moment of worship, but also an embrace of a &lt;em&gt;doxological life&lt;/em&gt; which is organized differently.  So the summons is a summons to reorient life.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;-  Walter Brueggemann, “Psalm 100”, &lt;em&gt;Interpretation&lt;/em&gt; (Jan 1985): 65.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-8181547828661840665?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/8181547828661840665/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=8181547828661840665' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/8181547828661840665'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/8181547828661840665'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/11/praise-reorienting-life.html' title='Praise Reorienting Life'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-7535518966861160286</id><published>2009-11-17T06:06:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2009-11-17T06:06:00.277-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='catholicism'/><title type='text'>Walking With Jesus as a Former Catholic</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SwDefXfLbBI/AAAAAAAAAjY/tf9_OCakolg/s1600/Holy_Ground_Cover%5B1%5D.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5404564183306693650" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 130px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 200px" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SwDefXfLbBI/AAAAAAAAAjY/tf9_OCakolg/s200/Holy_Ground_Cover%5B1%5D.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;I am participating in a blog tour by &lt;a href="http://www.chris-tocentric.com/"&gt;Chris Castaldo&lt;/a&gt; author of the new book, Holy Ground: Walking With Jesus as a Former Catholic. At &lt;a href="http://www.chris-tocentric.com/?p=570"&gt;Chris’ site&lt;/a&gt; you can see the participants and dates for the tour.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Two things drew me to this book right away. First, the fact that Chris serves on staff at College Church, Wheaton, spoke volumes. Second, I noticed that D. A. Carson had this to say about the book:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“This is the best book I have read that chronicles such pilgrimages. And it is full of godly commonsense."&lt;/blockquote&gt;Significant praise from a significant source!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My official part of the tour is later this month but I wanted to go ahead and ask Chris how this book would be helpful particularly to pastors. Here is Chris’ answer:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here it is in a nutshell: estimates say there are 14 million former Catholics in the United States who now identify as “evangelical” or “born again.” These are people who struggle to understand how their Catholic background still exerts influence upon them and who need to confront patterns of faith that are less than biblical, while simultaneously applying more of the gospel. At the same time, they wrestle with the challenge of effectively communicating the hope of Christ to Catholic family and friends. Most of us pastors have at least some of these folk in our churches. Holy Ground is written to help church leaders offer these individuals the contextualized form of discipleship they so desperately need.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The biggest surprise for me since Holy Ground’s release has been the book’s appeal among evangelical Protestants with no Catholic background. They have Catholic neighbors, coworkers, and friends whom they want to understand and relate to more effectively. They have questions like: Are all Catholics the same? Where do the doctrinal lines of continuity and difference fall? How can I initiate gospel conversations? The depth of interest in these issues reveals a much broader audience than I anticipated.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Through an extended narrative describing my personal journey as a devout Catholic who worked with bishops and priests before eventually becoming an Evangelical pastor, Holy Ground tries to help readers to understand:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Priorities which drive Catholic faith and practice&lt;br /&gt;Where lines of continuity and discontinuity fall between Catholicism and Evangelicalism&lt;br /&gt;Delicate dynamics that make up our relationships&lt;br /&gt;Principles for lovingly sharing the gospel of salvation by faith alone&lt;br /&gt;Historical overview from the Reformation to the present&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because Holy Ground is a pastoral work, there are several aspects pertinent to church ministry, but let me mention one I constantly deal with in my role of equipping our people for evangelism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When we communicate the gospel to Catholics we often make the mistake of thinking that our conversations should directly address doctrinal issues. This is not only incorrect, it is impossible. When speaking to a friend about faith, we don’t speak directly to his religious beliefs; we speak to a person who holds religious beliefs. This is a crucial, overlooked distinction. John Stackhouse in his book Humble Apologetics puts his finger on it:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To put it starkly, if “message without life” was sufficient, Christ didn’t need to perform signs, nor did he need to form personal relationships in which to teach the gospel to those who would believe him and spread the word. He could simply have hired scribes to write down his message and distribute it (John G. Stackhouse, Jr., Humble Apologetics: Defending the Faith Today. [Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2002], 134).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is what sometimes frustrates me about books written to equip Evangelicals to discuss Jesus with Catholics. They seem to operate according to the assumption that if you can simply pile up enough proofs, Catholics will have no choice but to surrender under the weight of your argument. Sure, we must have reliable evidence and must know how to marshal it effectively; but, we can’t ignore the personal, cultural, historical, and religious dynamics which are also part of these conversations. Like, for example: What are the different types of Catholics in America today? How do Catholics generally view Protestants? What are the prevailing caricatures? What landmines do we routinely step on? What language is helpful and what terms undermine fruitful discussion? How can we navigate through controversies related to one’s ethnic background or the history of anti-Catholicism in America? Where is common ground and where must we necessarily draw lines of distinction? And the list goes on. Holy Ground addresses these and other such questions in order to help ourselves and the people we serve more effectively proclaim Christ’s glory among our Catholic friends and loved ones. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-7535518966861160286?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/7535518966861160286/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=7535518966861160286' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/7535518966861160286'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/7535518966861160286'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/11/walking-with-jesus-as-former-catholic.html' title='Walking With Jesus as a Former Catholic'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SwDefXfLbBI/AAAAAAAAAjY/tf9_OCakolg/s72-c/Holy_Ground_Cover%5B1%5D.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-6774557762838183209</id><published>2009-11-16T06:45:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2009-11-16T12:31:19.307-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pastoral care'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='galatians'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='love'/><title type='text'>Paul and Pastoral Love</title><content type='html'>Yesterday Lee Tankersley preached &lt;a href="http://www.cccnow.org/sermon.php?ID=548"&gt;a great message on Galatians 4:12-20&lt;/a&gt; and how the gospel develops a deep love between members of the church. Before the sermon ever began, I was gripped simply by the reading of this text, and the heart for the Galatians which Paul exhibits. It is so important in this, perhaps the harshest of Paul’s letters, to see this pastoral love expressed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a place for speaking the hard word. Rebuke is necessary and a true example of love. However, if you think rebuke and “calling out” is cool, you are missing the heart of God- and are currently in danger of harming the church. In fact this is a sign of immaturity. Mature leadership speaks the hard word, when necessary, from a heart broken for the people and yearning for their growth and obedience.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This text is worth meditating on often:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;12 Brothers, I entreat you, become as I am, for I also have become as you are. You did me no wrong. 13 You know it was because of a bodily ailment that I preached the gospel to you at first, 14 and though my condition was a trial to you, you did not scorn or despise me, but received me as an angel of God, as Christ Jesus. 15 What then has become of the blessing you felt? For I testify to you that, if possible, you would have gouged out your eyes and given them to me. 16 Have I then become your enemy by telling you the truth? 17 They make much of you, but for no good purpose. They want to shut you out, that you may make much of them. 18 It is always good to be made much of for a good purpose, and not only when I am present with you, 19 my little children, for whom I am again in the anguish of childbirth until Christ is formed in you! 20 I wish I could be present with you now and change my tone, for I am perplexed about you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let us go and do likewise.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-6774557762838183209?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/6774557762838183209/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=6774557762838183209' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6774557762838183209'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6774557762838183209'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/11/paul-and-pastoral-love.html' title='Paul and Pastoral Love'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-3110362201321212541</id><published>2009-11-13T11:54:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2009-11-13T12:00:27.080-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='preaching'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='conflict'/><title type='text'>For God’s Sake Deal with Sin</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/Sv2eeZ0gmlI/AAAAAAAAAjQ/32ed2uN-Dy0/s1600-h/jonathan+newman.bmp"&gt;&lt;img style="MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 141px; FLOAT: left; HEIGHT: 173px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5403649373078854226" border="0" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/Sv2eeZ0gmlI/AAAAAAAAAjQ/32ed2uN-Dy0/s200/jonathan+newman.bmp" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Today in chapel at Union we had a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.uu.edu/audio/Detail.cfm?ID=453"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:#800080;"&gt;great message from Jonathan Newman&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;, a great friend whom I have been privileged to know since our student days here at Union.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Jonathan planted and pastors &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://draco.websrvcs.com/templates/System/default.asp?id=21322"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:#800080;"&gt;Koinos Christian Fellowship in Troy, OH&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Jonathan challenged us with the necessity of dealing with conflict in the church lest we suggest by our actions to the watching world that God really does not matter.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;This is a wonderfully practical message tied to glorious truths.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;If we ignore the situations where we have offended others or where we have been offended we compromise the gospel and undercut its influence in and through us.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I encourage you &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.uu.edu/audio/Detail.cfm?ID=453"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:#800080;"&gt;to listen in&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-3110362201321212541?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/3110362201321212541/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=3110362201321212541' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/3110362201321212541'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/3110362201321212541'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/11/for-gods-sake-deal-with-sin-today-in.html' title='For God’s Sake Deal with Sin'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/Sv2eeZ0gmlI/AAAAAAAAAjQ/32ed2uN-Dy0/s72-c/jonathan+newman.bmp' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-2916218156716323997</id><published>2009-11-12T14:09:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2009-11-12T14:11:48.684-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='plagiarism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Eugene Peterson'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='defining ministry'/><title type='text'>Eugene Peterson on “Successful Ministry”</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia', 'serif'; COLOR: #40464b; FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"&gt;Justin Taylor cited this passage from Eugene Peterson’s &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia', 'serif'; COLOR: #40464b; FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0802802656/bettwowor-20"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: #961402; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"&gt;Working the Angles: The Shape of Pastoral Integrity&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (pp. 7-8).&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Peterson is really good on pastoral ministry and this quote resonates with much discussed here so I wanted to pass it along.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia', 'serif'; COLOR: #40464b; FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"&gt;&lt;?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia', 'serif'; COLOR: #40464b; FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 9pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia', 'serif'; COLOR: #40464b; FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"&gt;For a long time, I have been convinced that I could take a person with a high school education, give him or her a six-month trade school training, and provide a pastor who would be satisfactory to any discriminating American congregation. The curriculum would consist of four courses.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 9pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia', 'serif'; COLOR: #40464b; FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"&gt;Course&lt;br /&gt;I: Creative Plagiarism.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia', 'serif'; COLOR: #40464b; FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would put you in touch with a wide range of excellent and inspirational talks, show you how to alter them just enough to obscure their origins, and get you a reputation for wit and wisdom.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 9pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia', 'serif'; COLOR: #40464b; FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"&gt;Course&lt;br /&gt;II: Voice Control for Prayer and Counseling.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia', 'serif'; COLOR: #40464b; FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We would develop your own distinct style of Holy Joe intonation, acquiring the skill in resonance and modulation that conveys and unmistakable aura of sanctity.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 9pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia', 'serif'; COLOR: #40464b; FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"&gt;Course&lt;br /&gt;III: Efficient Office Management&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia', 'serif'; COLOR: #40464b; FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;There is nothing that parishioners admire more in their pastors than the capacity to run a tight ship administratively. If we return all phone calls within twenty-four hours, answer all the letters within a week, distributing enough carbons to key people so that they know we are on top of things, and have just the right amount of clutter on our desk—not too much, or we appear&lt;br /&gt;inefficient, not too little or we appear underemployed—we quickly get the reputation for efficiency that is far more important than anything that we actually do.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 9pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia', 'serif'; COLOR: #40464b; FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"&gt;Course&lt;br /&gt;IV: Image Projection&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia', 'serif'; COLOR: #40464b; FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;Here we would master the half-dozen well-known and easily implemented devices that that create the impression that we are terrifically busy and widely sought after for counsel by influential people in the community. A one-week refresher course each year would introduce new phrases that would convince our parishioners that we are bold innovators on the cutting edge of the megatrends and at the same time solidly rooted in all the traditional values of our sainted ancestors.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia', 'serif'; COLOR: #40464b; FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"&gt;(I have been laughing for several years over this trade school training with which I plan to make my fortune. Recently, though, the joke has backfired on me. I keep seeing advertisements for institutes and workshops all over the country that invite pastors to sign up for this exact curriculum. The advertised course offerings are not quite as honestly labeled as mine, but the content appears to be identical—a curriculum that trains pastors to satisfy the current consumer&lt;br /&gt;tastes in religion. I’m not laughing anymore.)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 9pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-2916218156716323997?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/2916218156716323997/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=2916218156716323997' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2916218156716323997'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2916218156716323997'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/11/eugene-peterson-on-successful-ministry.html' title='Eugene Peterson on “Successful Ministry”'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-633668492571267826</id><published>2009-11-06T06:10:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2009-11-12T21:04:55.630-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='preaching'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='justification'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='galatians'/><title type='text'>Galatians and Growing in Grace</title><content type='html'>I think God is really teaching and growing me in the realm of grace and much of it is tied to the book of Galatians. Eric Smith who is preaching through Galatians has commented on this (here and &lt;a href="http://en.wordpress.com/tag/grace/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) and has helped me in conversation. At our church, we have been walking through Galatians as well (&lt;a href="http://cccjackson.org/sermon_search.php?type=cat2&amp;amp;field=Series&amp;amp;value=Galatians"&gt;sermons online&lt;/a&gt;). We pastors felt our people needed this emphasis of being reminded of our standing in Christ due to grace, and we are seeing that we needed it just as much!&lt;br /&gt;Here is a comment from a church member that I thought was well put and edifying so I share it with you:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Lee,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I just wanted to let you know that the Lord has spoken to me through your messages on Galatians. I know you feel like you are saying the same things over and over, but you also rightly recognize that we can never really mature beyond justification by faith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If I could express something of the impact that your messages have had on me, I would say that the sting of my sin has been blunted. This is true not only in the sense that guilt and creeping despair have lost power over me because of the gospel, but also in the sense that sin seems less alluring because of the doctrine of justification by faith. I recognize much more readily now how easily I slip into tying my subjective sense of standing with God to my performance. Thank you for exposing that to me and killing it through your faithful proclamation of the Word of God. Christ is addressing his people through you week by week.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Don't let the pressure toward novelty cause you to lose sleep during sermon preparation. We don't need something new. We need the old truths that have been proclaimed for centuries….&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let us be faithful to keep preaching the old truths.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-633668492571267826?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/633668492571267826/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=633668492571267826' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/633668492571267826'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/633668492571267826'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/11/galatians-and-growing-in-grace.html' title='Galatians and Growing in Grace'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-6385359694069254689</id><published>2009-11-05T06:37:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2009-11-05T06:37:00.207-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='psalms'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='books'/><title type='text'>Godfrey’s An Unexpected Journey</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SvHKZGrx6TI/AAAAAAAAAjA/9tlRi4ptObo/s1600-h/unexpected+journey.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 101px; FLOAT: left; HEIGHT: 160px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5400319960833714482" border="0" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SvHKZGrx6TI/AAAAAAAAAjA/9tlRi4ptObo/s200/unexpected+journey.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;I have just finished reading Robert Godfrey’s spiritual autobiography, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0875527191?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=390957&amp;amp;creativeASIN=0875527191"&gt;An Unexpected Journey: Discovering Reformed Christianity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN: 0px; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none" border="0" alt="" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0875527191" width="1" height="1" /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;It was a wonderful, refreshing read.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;The portrait of vibrant Christianity (in the church where he came to faith, and elsewhere) which he describes is so compelling.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;As a Baptist I have places of difference with Godfrey, but this book was good for my soul and I commend it to you.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;He discusses the importance of a vibrant community and the danger of turning our churches into “debating societies” where truth is discussed but less concern is given to caring for one another.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;He describes his own struggle with resting in the sincerity of his faith rather than just trusting the faithfulness of Christ (as &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/11/sanctification-by-faith.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;noted previously&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;).&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;There is much pastoral wisdom to be found here.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Interestingly he structures most of the book around the Psalms.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;At the end of the book he discusses how valuable the Psalms have been to him.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;As anyone who has been reading this blog will know, I have been increasingly impressed with how central the Psalms were for the life and faith of our forebears coming out of the Reformation.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;When I see the strength of the trees which grew out of this soil, it makes me want to use the same fertilizer.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Interestingly, while Godfrey discusses the Psalms throughout, the chapter where he focuses on them is titled, “Passion.”&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;There, in the closing words of the book, he writes of the Psalms:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;“They have focused and united for me the theology, the worship, the piety, and the church life taught in the Scriptures.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;They have united for me head, heart, and mouth in the praise of the Lord. They are the soul of the Reformed faith.” (150)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-6385359694069254689?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/6385359694069254689/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=6385359694069254689' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6385359694069254689'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/6385359694069254689'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/11/godfreys-unexpected-journey.html' title='Godfrey’s An Unexpected Journey'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SvHKZGrx6TI/AAAAAAAAAjA/9tlRi4ptObo/s72-c/unexpected+journey.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-4327615115856321784</id><published>2009-11-03T06:49:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2009-11-03T06:49:00.210-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='commentaries'/><title type='text'>Yarbrough on 1-3 John</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/Su8rei1ij9I/AAAAAAAAAi4/y7mse4VDFtw/s1600-h/yarbrough+on+1,3+john.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 100px; FLOAT: left; HEIGHT: 160px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5399582281987952594" border="0" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/Su8rei1ij9I/AAAAAAAAAi4/y7mse4VDFtw/s200/yarbrough+on+1,3+john.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;You just have to love a commentary which opens with a preface like the one in Bob Yarbrough’s &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0801026873?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=390957&amp;amp;creativeASIN=0801026873"&gt;1, 2, and 3 John (Baker Exegetical Commentary on the New Testament)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN: 0px; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none" border="0" alt="" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0801026873" width="1" height="1" /&gt;.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Now, I was already a Yarbrough fan having had him for German while at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tiu.edu/divinity/"&gt;TEDS&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;and enjoyed several interactions with him.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Therefore, what he wrote in this preface did not surprise me, but left me with a smile thinking, “Vintage Yarbrough!”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;This preface is worth reading in its entirety, but I will post some excerpts here as good examples of the approach to biblical study.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;“It is customary for commentary writers to muse aloud to try to justify yet another painstaking study of biblical books that have already been treaded repeatedly.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Nearly one hundred commentaries were written on the Johannine Epistles from patristic times to the early 1980’s . . . . I offer no defense for this commentary if the requirement is earthshaking novelty, unprecedented profundity, or unrivaled comprehensiveness.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Life is not long enough to do justice to even epistle-length snippets of Christian Scripture, and publishers are not going to wait a lifetime for the manuscript anyway. . . . What I have written is limited in scope, incomplete in breadth, and restricted in insight. . . Experts should prepare to encounter any number of limitations, serious even if not criminal, in the present work.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-tab-count: 1"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Since a commentary is supposed to be explication rather than creative or even historical fiction, its redeeming value, if any, will lie in communication of any truths observed and articulated.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Here I may express more optimism, for even a modest witness to gospel verities carries divine promise. . . . Like the exegetical labors of many interpreters through the ages, my work on the biblical text has grown out of a sense of conviction of sin, seizure by divine grace, and fascination with biblical wisdom as I sometimes think I understand it.” (ix)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;“While academic protocol moves perhaps most commentators to take their primary discussion partners from among current doyens of the discipline, I have (without ignoring our day’s intellects and critical industries) tried to draw on a range of thinkers from across temporal and cultural boundaries. . . . For better or worse this may give my commentary a sense of addressing classic Christian concerns and not only current technical and postmodern ones. . . . In my choice of discussion partners, I have sought to assure that the way I have approached John’s Letters and the things I have found in them are not unduly confined to my short lifetime’s frequently quirky agenda.” (xi)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;“…in reading John’s Letters, I confess as much interest in how they look to followers of the prophet Muhammad or to citizens of a post-Marxist country trying to rebuild after decades of political assault on Christianity or to a pastor in Singapore, as to the direct heirs of Dodd and Bultmann. . . . What does John have to say to Christians who are dying for the faith they profess, in part because of the trust they have based in writings like the Johannine Epistles?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;These are questions typically&lt;br /&gt;untouched in the Western professional guilds where what used to be the study of&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;‘divinity’ has become the pursuit of rarified ‘biblical studies’ or even bloodless ‘religions.’” (xii) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-4327615115856321784?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/4327615115856321784/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=4327615115856321784' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4327615115856321784'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4327615115856321784'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/11/yarbrough-on-1-3-john.html' title='Yarbrough on 1-3 John'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/Su8rei1ij9I/AAAAAAAAAi4/y7mse4VDFtw/s72-c/yarbrough+on+1,3+john.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-4243768591588313314</id><published>2009-11-02T05:57:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2009-11-02T05:57:00.698-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='holiness'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='grace'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sanctification'/><title type='text'>Sanctification by Faith</title><content type='html'>Here is a good description of sanctification making clear that we work but we do so by grace and not to earn or maintain our salvation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“As Americans, we live in a culture that looks for fast, simple solutions to all problems. … we must testify that no such solution exists for the process of sanctification. Rather, we must adorn our faith with serious discipline and continuous work to grow in grace. But that seriousness must not be grim. We pursue holiness not to earn our standing with God, but because we are filled with love and gratitude to God for the standing that is ours in Christ. We pursue holiness sustained at every point with the grace and support that our God gives us in his church and among his people. We pursue holiness with the confidence that on the day that we are with Christ forever, we will be perfectly holy.”&lt;br /&gt;- (Robert Godfrey, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0875527191?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=390957&amp;amp;creativeASIN=0875527191"&gt;An Unexpected Journey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-TOP: medium none; MARGIN: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none" height="1" alt="" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0875527191" width="1" border="0" /&gt;, p. 127) &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-4243768591588313314?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/4243768591588313314/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=4243768591588313314' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4243768591588313314'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4243768591588313314'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/11/sanctification-by-faith.html' title='Sanctification by Faith'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-8627498340336498809</id><published>2009-10-31T15:56:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-10-31T15:59:15.883-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Luther'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Reformation Day'/><title type='text'>Happy Reformation Day</title><content type='html'>Happy Reformation Day! I hope you make much of this day and the truths it commemorates with you family and church this weekend. My family gathered around last night to listen to Max McLean’s wonderful rendition of Luther’s defense at Worms, &lt;a href="http://www.listenersbible.com/products/index.php?main_page=product_custom_info&amp;amp;cPath=32&amp;amp;products_id=176&amp;amp;utm_source=EM910FHIS&amp;amp;utm_medium=email&amp;amp;utm_content=EM910FHIS_2&amp;amp;utm_campaign=EM910FHIS"&gt;“Martin Luther’s- Here I Stand”&lt;/a&gt; (available for free download through tomorrow!). He includes not only Luther’s speech, but also sets the scene well and records Luther’s prayer before his defense. It is very well done.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sadly, some Baptists think they have no part in this. They believe the Reformation is someone else’s story, and it does not relate to them. This is simply the separatist folly that afflicts us in various places. The Church was blessed by the recovery of the gospel, and we ought to celebrate that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I pulled down an old book I found a few years ago titled, &lt;em&gt;Scenes in Luther’s Life&lt;/em&gt;. It was published in 1848 by the American Baptist Publication Society (the author’s name is not given). This Baptist work was written, it says, to celebrate the work of God in the life of Martin Luther and to draw lessons from his life for us today. The author clearly believes this connects to the Baptist story. The introductory essay closes with this paragraph:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“The Reformation, therefore, in whatever aspect viewed, must be interesting to all classes of men. Its history cannot be studied too critically, or understood too well. Its leaders, also, especially Luther who was the most prominent, are our bothers, whose thoughts and feelings, joys and sorrows, conflicts and victories; it affords great pleasure to understand.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Amen. Let us remember the past that we might be faithful in the present and future.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-8627498340336498809?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/8627498340336498809/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=8627498340336498809' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/8627498340336498809'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/8627498340336498809'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/10/happy-reformation-day.html' title='Happy Reformation Day'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-5228977875440377251</id><published>2009-10-29T22:56:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-10-29T22:58:48.375-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='justification'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='death'/><title type='text'>Funeral Message Online</title><content type='html'>Following some request I have posted &lt;a href="http://www.uu.edu/personal/rvannest/Personal/funeralmessage.pdf"&gt;the print version of the funeral message for my brother&lt;/a&gt;. It is basically complete except for the gospel proclamation at the end.&lt;br /&gt;I have been delayed in getting this up due some technical issues, and that has caused me to reflect on the fact that it has finally, in full form, gone up just as we get to Reformation Day. It seems to me appropriate in a few ways.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;1. Doug had a great appreciation for the Reformation and the truths recovered there.&lt;br /&gt;2. In fact some of these Reformation truths were what he most liked to talk about.&lt;br /&gt;3. One of the last things he did was to order study bibles drawing from the Reformation for his daughters.&lt;br /&gt;4. The truth of justification by faith, far from merely an academic, abstract doctrine, is a central ground of comfort in the light of death.&lt;br /&gt;“to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness” (Rom 4:5) &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-5228977875440377251?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/5228977875440377251/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=5228977875440377251' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/5228977875440377251'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/5228977875440377251'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/10/funeral-message-online.html' title='Funeral Message Online'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-4864079566968138941</id><published>2009-10-28T12:46:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-10-28T12:50:28.382-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Reformation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Luther'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Reformation Day'/><title type='text'>Luther and the Reformation</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SuiEVDZxKTI/AAAAAAAAAiw/LrtBoEInOFU/s1600-h/luther+posting+theses.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 143px; FLOAT: left; HEIGHT: 195px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5397709650629044530" border="0" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SuiEVDZxKTI/AAAAAAAAAiw/LrtBoEInOFU/s200/luther+posting+theses.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Van Neste household has been gearing up for Reformation Day this weekend as we celebrate the work of God through Martin Luther and others recovering the gospel of grace. In thinking about this I returned again to a book which is a treasure in my library, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0758612958?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=390957&amp;amp;creativeASIN=0758612958"&gt;What Luther Says: A Practical In-Home Anthology for the Active Christian&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN: 0px; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none" border="0" alt="" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thechildrshou-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0758612958" width="1" height="1" /&gt;, Edited by Ewald M. Plass. I commend this book to you as a good one to but for yourself for a Reformation Day present!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this volume I found the following quote from Luther on the beginning of the Reformation. May we also be so committed to the Word of God and bold in its teaching.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“I, Doctor Martin, was called and compelled to become a doctor out of pure obedience, without my will. So I had to assume the office of a teacher (das Doctorampt) and swear and promise my most beloved Holy Scripture that I would preach and teach it faithfully and purely. In the course of this teaching the papacy blocked my way and wanted to keep me from doing so. But it fared as you may see, and it will fare increasingly worse and will not be able to defend itself against me. In the name and at the call of God I will ‘tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon [I will] trample under feet’ (Ps. 91:13). And this shall be begun during my life and completed after my death. St. John Huss prophesied of me when he wrote from his prison in Bohemia: They will no roast a goose (for Huss means a goose), but after a hundred years they will hear a swan sing; him they will have to tolerate. And so it shall continue, if it please God.” (p. 1175) &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-4864079566968138941?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/4864079566968138941/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=4864079566968138941' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4864079566968138941'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/4864079566968138941'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/10/luther-and-reformation.html' title='Luther and the Reformation'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xECWNO6yc9I/SuiEVDZxKTI/AAAAAAAAAiw/LrtBoEInOFU/s72-c/luther+posting+theses.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17279588.post-2804435606537391724</id><published>2009-10-26T12:10:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-10-26T12:11:38.480-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='preaching'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Spurgeon'/><title type='text'>Spurgeon, All of Grace</title><content type='html'>Many of you have probably already read Spurgeon’s little classic, &lt;a href="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/spurgeon/grace/files/grace.html"&gt;All of Grace&lt;/a&gt;. I have had a copy for years but never read it. Then fairly recently I got an audio copy of someone reading it (&lt;a href="http://christianaudio.com/product_info.php?products_id=457"&gt;from Christian Audio as their free download one month&lt;/a&gt;). My soul as soared as I have listened to this book the last couple of weeks! I strongly commend this book, and I think listening to it may have been the best medium- at least for me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There were so many portions that I thought about quoting here because Spurgeon is so theologically rich and so good with his words and illustrations. The main point I want to emphasize here, though, is what a powerful example of real pastoral preaching this little book is. Spurgeon is not here simply restating truths (however glorious those truths may be). Rather he is in earnest to communicate these truths well to the benefit of his reader. This thought came to mind repeatedly as I listened and then Spurgeon himself made it explicit in his closing when he wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It is all in vain, dear reader, that you and I have met, unless you have actually laid hold upon Christ Jesus, my Lord. On my part there was a distinct desire to benefit you, and I have done my best to that end. It pains me that I have not been able to do you good, for I have longed to win that privilege. I was thinking of you when I wrote this page, and I laid down my pen and solemnly bowed my knee in prayer for everyone who should read it. It is my firm conviction that great numbers of readers will get a blessing, even though you refuse to be of the number. But why should you refuse? If you do not desire the choice blessing which I would have brought to you, at least do me the justice to admit that the blame of your final doom will not lie at my door. When we two meet before the great white throne you will not be able to charge me with having idly used the attention which you were pleased to give me while you were reading my little book. God knoweth I wrote each line for your eternal good. ... The tears are in my eyes as I look at you and say, Why will you die?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This same sort of personal earnestness ought to mark our preaching. May we always have our specific people clearly in mind as we prepare. We are not merely describing truths but proclaiming them with the intention that our people understand and benefit eternally.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17279588-2804435606537391724?l=rvanneste.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/feeds/2804435606537391724/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17279588&amp;postID=2804435606537391724' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2804435606537391724'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17279588/posts/default/2804435606537391724'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/2009/10/spurgeon-all-of-grace.html' title='Spurgeon, All of Grace'/><author><name>Ray Van Neste</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05871695572227993190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry></feed>
